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Started by Philip Hardcastle, April 04, 2012, 05:00:30 AM

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MarkE

Quote from: profitis on June 17, 2014, 06:40:00 AM
Mark E the electrons are free to randomly thermaly shoot across the vaccuum over time.if the system is stable neutral and seperate:that is the systems lowest entropy state when seperate.if the system is fully charged when contacted then that is the lowest entropy state when in contact.
Are you claiming that the system spontaneously moves the contacts together and pulls them apart?  If not then you have declared two different situations, neither of which you have shown are reversible.

profitis

No the switch moves them together or apart @mark E.the switch is miniscule in size compared to the two pieces who are arbitrarily large in capacitance.the system is clearly reversable

sarkeizen

Quote from: profitis on June 17, 2014, 07:13:59 AM
I've given my formal argument
Nope. You have provided no set of steps and no validation that each step is inescapably true.   So, let me know when you get around to those.  After which you still need a textbook cite.  If you're interested in making your point.  If not.  Well, why would anyone be interested in someone pretending they're doing science but won't comply with one of the easiest and simplest (for the person making the claim) requirements.

MarkE

Quote from: profitis on June 17, 2014, 01:10:15 PM
No the switch moves them together or apart @mark E.the switch is miniscule in size compared to the two pieces who are arbitrarily large in capacitance.the system is clearly reversable
I think you need to avail yourself to a primer in thermodynamics.  The system is not moving the switch by itself.  Therefore the system cannot even reach one condition from the other by itself.  Therefore the system is not reversible between the conditions.  QED.

profitis

It seems phil was right markE.you have extremely limited knowledge on thermodynamics.