electrolysys with horizontal plates

[Walter Hofmann]

Hi hartiberlin and the rest-

I like the idea of adding some air, reminds me of that New Zealand guy(forget his name just now) from years ago who came up with a similar system where he bubbled air through a series of electrolysers.
However... some guys who have done extensive experimenting running hydroxy through small 4 stroke ICEs say that the hydroxy gas is at a perfect burn ratio already at 2:1. They go on to say that in fact that they had to completely close off any additional air intake or else the engine wouldn not run at all !
So what do you think? Is there a difference if it's first bubbled through the electrolyser in comparison to the normal additonal air intake at the carborator? of course the air would now include some water vapor but wonder what other features it might have?
Then once the engine is running you could recycle the exhaust back through the bubbler again to recapture the water if you wanted too and then you wouldn't need an air pump at all would you? after all the exhaust would be very clean

PS - good work Walter - look forward to hearing more. Now we need the amps/gas volumes if you could-thanks!

Hi
like mentioned before the drawn current is around 15 A by 12V and the output ( after the test recommended by stefan) is around 500ml per minute. i am using the bubbler as flash back arrestor till I can buy a commercial version.
with all the other stuff I will wait till I can start a ICE.
What is right is that the air intake on the ICE should be pretty much closed off.
greetings
walt

[Walter Hofmann]

like explained before I stopt before it gets a bomb
walt

I see, it is funny, that you are still smoking , when doing these experiments !
Better watchout and don?t get too near the ballon with your cigarette !
Booom !

Hi stefan,
nice comment, thanks 
walt

[Walter Hofmann]

Hi all,
here are the smal video ( I hope I get it in here) where you can see how the cells react with the rectangular cells also in horizontal first it does not generate a fraction of the bubbles even with the verry big surface area. But what is amazing too is that it seems that this plates now in horizontal start cleaning up the water what is now even more strange and I will examine this more in detail. This time I did shut off the A/C even that I sweaten like hell for the audio.
greetings
walt

[hartiberlin]

Hmm,
Walter, what is the difference now ?
Both cells now have the main plates in horizontal... ?

[Landor]

Difference is in the shape as he now has a round plate instead of a rectangular one.

The transference of charge thakes a totally different path. Much more effective with a disc shape.