Bessler's En Principia

[johnny874]

  @All,
One of the failures of over balanced wheels is that as has been shown, using levers doesn't work per se.
This simply means that if a weight falls towards center it does not create an under balance because of the
opposing levers behavior. I think Bessler realized this. If you look at his drawings, he did give levers
some thought as to how an under v/ over balance might be achieved.
And this would be one of the coolest things he realized about using a fluid. For it to be pumped, it would
have to have less potential than the lever acting on it. Basically, if a lever can generate 5 lbs. or kg's of
force, the fluid would need to weigh less. An example of this is if 1 lb. or kg. of fluid were pumped using
5 lbs. or kg's of force, it would shoot out of the pump. Think a garden hose here.
And what all of this would mean is that as the wheel rotates, the fluid would continually keep being pumped.
And with the levers on the wheel being counter balanced with each other, it would be interesting to find out
how much fluid it would take to rotate a balanced wheel.

  edited to add;
might try building an actual 1/4 section of the wheel. It would be 2 pump sections to demonstrate the basic principle.

[johnny874]

   @All,
  Silver Tiger over at bw dot com asked me about having 2 or 4 wheels working together producing power.
What I think might be possible is that a single 12 foot wheel could develop 25 amps of power at 120 volts. This would be a 12 ft. wheel with 2 1/2 inches of depth in the channel.
One thing I do believe would happen with a basic wheel working is that what ever museum they would want it for would probably want some of his other designs built. This is something that was done with Da Vinci.
One thing I have been criticized for while working on Bessler's wheel is my having tunnel vision. I think of it as staying focused myself. The same person who criticized me for that also criticized me for my use of math. It was my constant use of math and having learned from what I had built that got me looking at Bessler's drawings for a design that had the potential for a lot of over balance. Mt 67 shows more over balance than anyone should consider. And Mt 66 shows how it might be pumped (to give someone a basic idea).1/2 of the wheel is over balanced. In a real wheel, this wouldn't happen but it was obvious that bellows could provide the answer because they would pump water around the outside of a wheel like a water wheel in a stream flows over the top of the water wheel causing it to rotate. I do believe this is what Bessler saw in nature that inspired him, a water mill which was used to thresh grain into flour the same as a windmill.

                                                                            Jim

http://www.besslerwheel.com/wiki/index.php?title=MT_61-80#MT_066

[johnny874]

   @All,
Found out a friend of mine just got a table saw. He hasn,t done wood working before.
I told him he just became my new best frienc and that I will need to get him interested in Bessler

   Jim

[johnny874]

   Have decided to use knerf boards to form the radii.
Will be using .125 thin plywood as laminate.
Will be able to use .010 laminate to improve appearance.
Am thinking 30 in. or 75cm dia.

Jim

[johnny874]

  Will probably start building today.
I have let Stefan know that when I am finished, i would like to send it to him.
I do expect it to work but being the first prototype, it might not. And with a model
that can show the mechanics, the necessary relationships might not be understood
as to how force and leverage can work together to allow such a design to work.
This is where studying math would make a difference. It is as much as when to
apply leverage as it is in knowing leverage allows for an amplification of force.
Because of this, I will try to make the levers easily removeable so that trying
different ratios of leverage and different lengths of levers might be tried.

                                                                                  Jim