magnetic perpetual motion

[neptune]

Sadly, the older we get, the more cynical we become. If there is one thing I love, it is a good story. Once upon a time, in a place far away, and a long time ago....
So you have known about this since the seventies. Did you try to make one?


If you break a bar magnet in half, when you try to reassemble it, the broken ends do not repel, they attract.


Did you carefully examine the bottom of the vee notches, and did you look for the tiny exposed wires there, that fed current into the armature from the AAA batteries hidden in the base?


Since this man had the answer to the world`s problems, how much time did you spend trying to track him down after he "disappeared"?


The kindest interpretation I can put on this is that you were a victim of a good conjuring trick. As always I would love to be proved wrong.


Thanks for entertaining us for a few minutes on a dull, rainy day.

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@mastersus

I'd like to join the others who have asked that you provide a drawing of what you remember of this device. It sounds too good to be true but maybe there is something to it  . . . .

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[e2matrix]

Sadly, the older we get, the more cynical we become. If there is one thing I love, it is a good story. Once upon a time, in a place far away, and a long time ago....
So you have known about this since the seventies. Did you try to make one?


If you break a bar magnet in half, when you try to reassemble it, the broken ends do not repel, they attract.


Did you carefully examine the bottom of the vee notches, and did you look for the tiny exposed wires there, that fed current into the armature from the AAA batteries hidden in the base?


Since this man had the answer to the world`s problems, how much time did you spend trying to track him down after he "disappeared"?


The kindest interpretation I can put on this is that you were a victim of a good conjuring trick. As always I would love to be proved wrong.


Thanks for entertaining us for a few minutes on a dull, rainy day.

It actually crossed my mind that the guy just hated salesmen and wanted to leave him with a mind bender puzzle that would haunt him for a long while.  LOL ...   But I prefer to stay open to any new possibilities until proven otherwise.   I did question the part about the bar magnet but just figured that was lost in 40 years of memories.  I actually had plans one time that involved a triangular layout of magnets that claimed it would cause some other magnets in the middle of the triangle to spin with no other input.  It was a completely different setup and the only commonality was the triangle which is  a very unique geometric shape with properties like no others - I like to call it the antithesis of a circle  

[mastersus]

Hi all,

Hopefully I've managed to attach my sketch, which I constructed in Sketch Up. By no means is it accurate, but it will help to show what I meant.

The reason I posted the subject in the first place was to see if any forum member understood the principals behind it and possibly follow it up. I myself, unfortunately am not in a position to do this, but if anyone else wants to pursue it I would be more than happy to relate any information I can.

Neptune...as both a Patternmaker and thoroughly skeptic individual,  I inspected  the device for just such a thing and can assure you what I witnessed was genuine. As to breaking a magnet...

...If a bar magnet is cut in half what happens?

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according to laws of magnetism
1) law states that each magnet consists of two poles namely north(N) and south(S)
2) law states that like poles repel each other and unlike attract each other3) law states that when a bar magnet is cut into two, two magnets are attained


but
suppose we have bar magnet
1st side is north and 2nd side is south
when the bar magnet is cut into two
according to the law two magnets should be obtained
but when you do this
as 1st side was north so according to law the opposite side to this should be south
and 2nd side of the bar magnet was south so the opposite side should be north
and when u try to join the two magnets again into same shape as they were the won't
but why ?
they repel each other
correct
according to 2nd law only and only like pole repel each other
so the end points from where had cut the magnet they are either are N=N
or S=S
then according to 1st law a magnet consists on only two and unlike poles in a single magnet
so
this makes this laws contradictory proving that they are all wrong
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the centre of the magnet is at the neutral zone of the magnet. theoretically, there is no polarity at the centre. but, when at the centre it is borken/bisected each of the broken ends will assume polarity opposite to the that at the rear end. it means, one of the broken ends will have ''N'' and another one will have ''S''.
so each of both pieces of the magnet will become a complete magnet . this is according to the 'Molecular theory of Magnetism''. so the broken ends will attract each other ( not REPEL as commented above ) because unlike poles attract.

so, nothing contradictory is seen. one can better understand if Molecular theory of magnetism ' is read out in its simpler version.


How much time did I spend trying to track him down?...only what I've already stated. Why would I? as a young budding salesman  selling was my only goal.

One thing I will say to all skeptic/doubters...don't close your minds to something you simply can't grasp, Albert Einstein was once regarded as a crank by doubters...look how wrong they were! 

Any intelligent fool can make things bigger and more complex... It takes a touch of genius - and a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction.
Albert Einstein

   

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@mastersus

Would it have been something like this for magnetic polarity perhaps?

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