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Started by VANDUGEGS, July 05, 2006, 09:59:14 PM

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mark australia

I would be happy to sign a NDA. Its a tricky process to get something like this out there. First step is verification and have it independently tested. Second is to protect the intellectual property. if these two steps are taken then it is an easy process to get the money provided the economics of it stacks up.
Questions to ask is the usual
1: power in vs power out.
2: Capital cost to usable power.
If it does run as a gravity motor without any other percieved power source (solar, wind, electrical, chemical) it could be in the running for some prize money (Randi, Eric Graig etc).
The main thing is to have it indepentantly tested by a trusted party. The NEC has some very good people in the states.
Mark (Australia) PS I have skype and msn if Darell wants a chat ...no need for me to see anything.

hartiberlin

Hi nightwynd,

the notes and questions you should ask:

1. He should show you the machine running and you have tomake
sure there is no hidden energ source like batteries or hidden cables
or RF receiver.

2. Then sign an eye wittness report, that you have seen it running and
for how long.

3. Sign an NDA, so Darrel is sure, you don?t tell the principle to other
people and speak with Darrel about the possible marketing and production
processes, if it first would be probably best to find a company, that
will produce a desktop toy out of it or sell "how to"manuals on Ebay
or CDs with movies from it on Ebay or something simular...

4. I guess, if Darrel will choose to go the public way to put
out a video with the running machine and a stamped in title,
that it is his invention, he would be recognized in history as the
2nd Bessler and will make much more money from his famousity,
all the Talk Shows he would be invited and TV shows, etc...
and he could write a book, that could be a bestseller, get prize money
or the Nobel prize, etc...
So I would go for an open public demonstration.


Quote from: nightwynd on July 15, 2006, 09:43:23 AM
Thats a really good question Stefan...I've been wondering the same thing myself. I'm planning a trip up to Darrell's sometime soon, just have to book the time off of work. What I would like to know though is, what do people need to know to actually belive that this works, without going into the mechanical aspects of it? Basically I'm looking for a list of questions that need answering as well as what kinds of pictures that should be taken. Please either post the questions here, or email them to me - nightwynd@gmail.com

Thanks!
nightwynd.
Stefan Hartmann, Moderator of the overunity.com forum

hartiberlin

Hi Darrel,
Have a look at this:

http://peswiki.com/index.php/OS:Andy_Gravity-Magnet_Motor

Maybe we can get Ken Hegemann
to rebuild your motor,
cause he already has the parts for the Andy Gravity motor...

The difference is not too much.

You are using the base-case-stand of the motor to let the weights roll
to the outer spokes end from 12 to 2 o?Clock which seems
to be better than the Andy motor
and probably you also let the weights roll on the stand from 6 to 8 o?clock to get nearer to the axis,
so you have a see-saw, which is always heavier on the right side...
and the wheel turns clockwise.

Maybe Ken Hegemann can try to replicate your design and verify your claims.
Regards, Stefan.
Stefan Hartmann, Moderator of the overunity.com forum

nightwynd

Didn't they completely disprove the viability of the Andy Motor? The mathematics are all there that disprove the claims....

Thanks for the info there Stefan, I'll see if I can come up with some good material for everyone :)
Need motivation? Read: http://www.lifeaftertheoilcrash.net/
Sincerely - nightwynd

hartiberlin

Yes, the Andy motor does not work, but when you look
at the video Darrel posted, his design is different as the case-stand is
moving the weights from 12 to 2 o clock and to the outer end of the spokes...
That is a completely different force setup.
I can already image how Darrel?s machine works,
although he did not yet send me more infos.
Have to first finalize the NDA with him...

I guess Darrel?s design is very simular in function
to the real Bessler wheel, cause there also probably the
case-housing-stand of the motor has been shifting the weights.
Otherwise it would not have been possible for Bessler
to hide the inner workings with a closed surface wheel ! Think about it !

There also the inner stand case must have shifted the weights
also Besser just only used 8 weights and used springs
and Darrel says that his design only works with at least 12 spokes,
okay, he does not use any springs bust just a see-saw design,
so he is just using a bigger torque arm on the right side to pull weights up
at the left side....

As Darrel is living on 200 Ca$ a month only he really is looking for some
help for all the years he has worked on it and it might be good for him
to apply for a prize money, maybe from Randi or Eric Krieg...
Stefan Hartmann, Moderator of the overunity.com forum