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Fernando`s Force multiplier

Started by neptune, May 03, 2012, 03:09:35 PM

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DreamThinkBuild

Hi Ron,

Excellent craftsmanship.

How much force vertically is that bar generating? or can hold?

The reason I ask is what if you mount a long linear moving gear track to the bar with weights at each end, run it at low speed so it doesn't blow apart and have a gen with a gear that is fixed to the same plane as the gear track. Use the oscillating motion to rock the gear track with added weights back and forth driving the geared generator. The speed would be determined by the length of track, angle and weight/load attached. Just an idea.

Hi Luc,

Thank you for Raymond's video. Now I can finally understand the push/pull effect.  ;)

i_ron

Quote from: DreamThinkBuild on September 07, 2012, 08:00:24 PM
Hi Ron,

Excellent craftsmanship.

How much force vertically is that bar generating? or can hold?

The reason I ask is what if you mount a long linear moving gear track to the bar with weights at each end, run it at low speed so it doesn't blow apart and have a gen with a gear that is fixed to the same plane as the gear track. Use the oscillating motion to rock the gear track with added weights back and forth driving the geared generator. The speed would be determined by the length of track, angle and weight/load attached. Just an idea.





Thank you!


However I think the idea would be rather hard to implement...not only that, maybe even the wrong place to try to get work out?


Ron







gotoluc

Quote from: i_ron on September 07, 2012, 07:01:40 PM



Thanks Luc. Just trying to keep up to the high standard you have set!


Incidentally here is one from Ukraine


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8aQCfhGoCU&feature=plcp


Ron

Hi Ron,

thanks for your reply and positive comment

I did see that Ukraine video but could not find any other details as far as if they were able to see an effect

Looking forward in your research results

Thanks for sharing

Luc

i_ron

Quote from: gotoluc on September 10, 2012, 01:31:35 PM
Hi Ron,

Looking forward in your research results


Luc


Hi Luc,


Well I was being quiet as I didn't find the holy grail. So I am on hold in hopes someone gets a positive result.


I thought the difference between having both shafts turning CW and the shafts turning CW/CCW
would be a proof of gain. Not found, With a 300mm proof bar and a spring scale indicating 1 Kg in each case, the CW case drew 2 amps while the shafts rotating in opposite directions drew 2.32 amps. This is with the shafts 280mm apart and an eccentric of 12mm, (1 inch total) and 290mm, 4.35 Kg flywheels.


Perhaps weights and dimensions are critical?


Regards, Ron






gotoluc

Quote from: i_ron on September 10, 2012, 07:32:46 PM

Hi Luc,


Well I was being quiet as I didn't find the holy grail. So I am on hold in hopes someone gets a positive result.


I thought the difference between having both shafts turning CW and the shafts turning CW/CCW
would be a proof of gain. Not found, With a 300mm proof bar and a spring scale indicating 1 Kg in each case, the CW case drew 2 amps while the shafts rotating in opposite directions drew 2.32 amps. This is with the shafts 280mm apart and an eccentric of 12mm, (1 inch total) and 290mm, 4.35 Kg flywheels.


Perhaps weights and dimensions are critical?


Regards, Ron

Hi Ron,

thanks for the reply and update.

I looked at all the videos in slow motion and I'm quite sure that both flywheels turn in the same direction. However, there is a start where the generator flywheel started turning in the opposite direction but they soon shut it down. So for sure they are able to turn in opposite directions. There's also footage where they line up the flywheels before they start the prime mover and I guess it so they can go in the right direction.

Question: when you turn by hand do your flywheels each alternate the faster motion for a portion of the turn like Raymond's video demo I posted above?

Perhaps there's a specific RPM for each build where Resonance may kick in?

Thanks for sharing

Luc