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Overunity Machines Forum



Fernando`s Force multiplier

Started by neptune, May 03, 2012, 03:09:35 PM

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i_ron

Quote from: Mr g on September 11, 2012, 11:38:12 AM
Ron what about the lever? did you try a lever?


Did you mean the "inverted pendulum"? or "flag" as I call it...yes I did, merely increased the draw


Ron

i_ron

Quote from: gotoluc on September 12, 2012, 03:09:20 PM
Hi Ron,

thanks for the reply and update.

I looked at all the videos in slow motion and I'm quite sure that both flywheels turn in the same direction. However, there is a start where the generator flywheel started turning in the opposite direction but they soon shut it down. So for sure they are able to turn in opposite directions. There's also footage where they line up the flywheels before they start the prime mover and I guess it so they can go in the right direction.

Question: when you turn by hand do your flywheels each alternate the faster motion for a portion of the turn like Raymond's video demo I posted above?

Perhaps there's a specific RPM for each build where Resonance may kick in?

Thanks for sharing

Luc


Hi Luc,


You only get the bobbing action if the flywheels are turning in opposite directions. If you watch the flag in the videos you see it rising and falling as in Arto's graphics.


In the video you posted he has the eccentric radius very exaggerated, so it is easier to see than at a small radius...but it is there. Trouble is it hammers and beats itself to death.


Ron




gotoluc

Thanks for the reply and information Ron.

Do you have a way to vary the speed of the prime mover to observe if any changes occur with that variable?

Thanks for your time and sharing your experiment results

Luc

i_ron

Quote from: gotoluc on September 12, 2012, 09:55:43 PM
Thanks for the reply and information Ron.

Do you have a way to vary the speed of the prime mover to observe if any changes occur with that variable?

Thanks for your time and sharing your experiment results

Luc


G'day Luc,



Funny you should mention that as Honza brought that to my attention this AM... he says if you look at the Terawatt chart you will see that this is very much RPM dependent ...all too true as I was running way too slow at 380 RPM. Unfortunately my build was too punny and literally destroyed itself on its last run. Anyway Fernando was probably running a 1600 RPM (50 Hz?) motor. belted up to 2000 RPM?


Ron


Edit: just for interests sake... note that with the generator direct coupled it is also acting as part of the flywheel for the second shaft. In the JPG of Fernando behind the machine you cab see the second flywheel is smaller than the first one, note also the extensions to the link on each side

UL Terawatt data for comparison:






i_ron



G'day Luc,



Funny you should mention that as Honza brought that to my attention this AM... he says if you look at the Terawatt chart you will see that this is very much RPM dependent ...all too true as I was running way too slow at 380 RPM. Unfortunately my build was too punny and literally destroyed itself on its last run. Anyway Fernando was probably running a 1600 RPM (50 Hz?) motor. belted up to 2000 RPM?


Ron


Edit: just for interests sake... note that with the generator direct coupled it is also acting as part of the flywheel for the second shaft. In the JPG of Fernando behind the machine you cab see the second flywheel is smaller than the first one, note also the extensions to the link on each side


edit 3: sorry the smaller flywheels on shaft two are better seen in this jpg
edit 4 sorry for the double post! brain not in gear

UL Terawatt data for comparison: