The only working gravity wheel I can think of...

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...is super electric charged weights which use both gravity and electrostatic force to run.
Motors that runs on the field around an electric charged rotor/stator, must also have one rotor part which lose weight when the electrons are moved to the negative charged rotor part (Which becomes heavier).


The question is, how many voltages is needed in order to measure any difference in mass?


Vidar

[Rafael Ti]

So... it would be a hybrid, not pure gravity device  .
I thought recently about using centrifugal forces of freewheel, but think there is always a balance btw. centripetal and centrifugal achieved when wheel rotates. Any ingression in these forces will slowly stop the wheel...
The same when trying to use inertion. Inertion allowes only to magazine the energy used to.. overcome inertion:). Sometimes it may help as it is kind of delay.
However i still believe in simple /but well performed/ eight weighted wheel. /pure gravity/

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If one weight doesn't work, 8 weights will not work.
Imagine you make 8 separate wheels with one weight each. Each weight on all 8 wheels is positioned as they combined shaped a 8 weight wheel.
Now start all the 8 wheels at the same time, keep them in sync. Will they work as 8 separate single weight wheels? You would say "No".
Now, continue to rotate the wheels in sync, but link these wheels together, gently one by one, so the wheels are finally physically connected to eachother, but are still sunning in sync - as before, no change. Is it now a better reason for the wheels to work? No.


Pure gravity boils down to potential energy which is gained and lost when a weight goes up and down. If a weight goes up and down in a pure vertical manner, or in a circular, oval, or square manner, doesn't matter. Gravity works vertically, not sideways or upwards at the same time. A gravity wheel that does not have any form of input energy will not work - simple as that.


In my experiment, I would charge the weights with several 100 thousands of volt, jus to proove if the weight that gains electrons increase in weight, and the other weight whivh loose electrons gets lighter. An electron weights about 9x10^-28 grams. To get 1V you need a difference of about 1 trillion trillion electrons. So what would the weight difference of +/- 100kV be? quite a "lot". The question is if the energy needed to move all those electrons, is equal to the electric force that occour and the weight of the electrons combined.


Vidar

[Rafael Ti]

I know your way of argumentation... The picture of 8 wheels you've posted here shows nicely the way of your thinhing. You treat each of 8 weights of wheel separately, which is not correct as wheel is the System of weights linked by leverage... I don't think that most ppl on besslerwheel dot com are just dreamers, or even Bessler alone.
But I don't want to argue - this is your thread and your new interesting idea.. You just gave up pure gravity, I gave up pure centrifugal/-petal, inertia.. that's O.K.

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In order to have a weight that both account for itself + accounts for other weights as well, that weight must first gain more potential energy than its weight and altitude allows. At the same time the other weights must do the same, to deal with the weight that provided its extra potential.


Analogy: You cannot have only one fruit in your hand, eat it all up, and still have one un-eaten fruit to give away to your friend. That analogy can be used in a gravity wheel as well. Each fruit must account for itself. One eaten, one gone. One weight, one potential. Eight weights, eight potentials. Eight fruits eaten, eight fruits gone.


Levers will only transform one form of energy into another - transform low speed/hight torque to high speed/low torque, but not be able to add energy into the system.
Smaller bites of the fruit takes longer time to eat it up. Take one big bite and the fruit is gone fast. You have still eaten only one fruit in both cases - still no extra fruit to give away.


Bessler and many others fails to see this perspective, and therfor fails in every attempt of building a working gravity wheel.