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Working SMOT ramp from Tom Ferko ?

Started by hartiberlin, July 12, 2006, 10:42:03 AM

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hartiberlin

Here is a picture of Tom?s stator  with the magnets inside.
He wrote to me:

Hi Stefan,


Here is a photo of a single stagger track  rail and what it looks like under
the red tape.   I have many stacked disk ceramic magnets shown here. Shown
are 13.  Neodymium disks or blocks can be used and really they are much
better to use but costly.  There are 1/4 inch thick wood disks seperating
one inch sections of stacked magnets.    North-south-north-south-ect.   Real
easy to make and really powerfull at the ends. Note:  The total lenght is
determined by trial and error.   To short  a rail and it will not work right
and to long it will be weak and the runner will stop in the center point
somewhere.

Stefan Hartmann, Moderator of the overunity.com forum

hartiberlin

Here is the next picture from Tom,
what he will build now with his motor.

He wrote:

Hi Stefan,

Here is what I am going to use to attempt constructing a working Stagger
track SMOT motor. I sometimes use my bedroom as my workshop.   I
photographed everything on my bed spread.   My wife thinks I have a few
screws loose but I keep trying.

Notice the two huge donut ring magnets.  When you step up to that type of
magnetic power strange things happen.  I can track one rail with one side of
any single donut runner magnet.  I dont need the other side of the magnet at
all!!  Notice the North sides of both Donut ring magnets will be facing the
pivot point of the turntable.

You can easily see how the rails are stacked. I have two wood disks ( 1/4
inch space) for every one inch of stacked magnets.  I ran out of wood disks
and have to complete the 4th rail. The rails have a powerful North and South
pole on either end.

NOTE to those not knowing:  The rail magnets MUST have wood or plastic
seperations ( 1/4 inch space) as shown.  Why?  Study all the Tomi track
literature you can find and you will have your answers.  Its a long story
but if you use a solid long magnet as a rail the Donut runner magnet will
stop in the center of any given rail and never move towards the other side.
In our case its the North pole side.


I am going to use a very flat bearing under the turn table. Its shown in the
jpeg. That bearing turns as smooth as silk and it will hold 100 pounds.  Any
type of outside magnetic field influence on either Donut ring magnet(
mounted on the table top) will cause the table to rotate on its center
axis.(MOTOR PICKUP)

Hopefully all will work out.        You can post all  this also Stefan if
you wish.  I hope others are interested.

I am using ceramic magnets as I have hundreds available but if someone with
a lot of cash springs for neodymium magnets -- wow-- "when - not if" the
motor works look out---    Tom
Stefan Hartmann, Moderator of the overunity.com forum

hartiberlin

Tom wrote again to me this:

Hi Stefan,

In my original plan (jpeg) I sent to you I was going to use TWO ring magnets
on the turntable. Thats in error.  Looking further I saw an error in my
thinking.  I have created a sticky spot.  Observe that both ( 2 ) mounted
ring magnets on the turntable will close in on the fixed North ends of the
magnetic rails they are tracking at the "exact" same time.   This is a  no-
no as one donut magnet will be pushed inwards on one side of the table and
the other donut magnet will be pushed inwards on the other side of the table
at the exact same time when passing the North poles of the track rails.  A
sticky spot is now formed.

Observe the movie clip of the moving linear Stagger track once more. "ONE"
side of donut magnet will always push off on the end of a magnetic pole at
an angle and roll away.   The other side of a magnet WOULD do the same thing
IF THERE IS A MAGNETIC TRACK RAIL ON THAT SIDE ALSO.  IF both push off
angles cross each other the donut runner stops dead in its tracks right
there.  THE DREADED STICKY SPOT is formed.

That never happens on the linear stagger track shown in the movie clip
because the track rails are staggered and only one side of the runner magnet
is tracking a rail at any given moment and when pushoff time occurs the
runner magnet is free to leave the rail without influence from the other
side of the runner magnet.

To correct this I will go with three donut magnets on the turntable. Thats
indicated where the three powder blue lines are.    Only "ONE" side of "ONE"
donut turntable magnet will be directly facing the North fixed end of a
given track rail pole at any given moment in time. The other two turntable
magnets facing their rail pole track will be "power tracking"  in different
positions.   End result will be no sticky spot.

Please replace the original jpeg plan with this corrected  jpeg plan and
explanation  Stefan......  Tom
Stefan Hartmann, Moderator of the overunity.com forum

hartiberlin

Tom and all,
better try it first with just one rotor magnet,
(and a equal weight at the other side for compensation).
This way not too many fields will negatively superimpose
and kill the effect !
Stefan Hartmann, Moderator of the overunity.com forum

magnetman12003

Quote from: hartiberlin on July 15, 2006, 04:30:09 PM
Tom and all,
better try it first with just one rotor magnet,
(and a equal weight at the other side for compensation).
This way not too many fields will negatively superimpose
and kill the effect !

Hi All,

I just rounded up a bunch of lead bird shot that equals the weight of the donut turntable magnet. Now I have a counterweight that can easily be lightened or made heavier to balance the (hopefully) spinning turntable .    Tom