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Overunity Machines Forum



Using Chas Cambel Flywheel System For 15 Horsepower

Started by thankGod, June 25, 2012, 11:57:43 PM

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No clue 25

NASA uses flywheels as batteries in some satellites it charges for 60minutes on the sunny side and it takes 30 minutes to go around the dark side.  The wheel has a spin time of 90minutes.  Do your research before you tell me and others that I'm wrong. And if you don't think that matching frequency or resonance can have pretty substantial effects you shouldn't be voicing your opinion.  You can lift large masses just by matching the frequency you produce and the object.  How do you think all these ancient city's where built.  They had to lift things that we would have trouble with today and not to mention in very precarious places that even modern equipment could not get to(machupichu).  Don't just shut stuff down based on what u read. Have you replicated an earthquake machine?  If not make one, then call us crazy. Think outside the box. 

Grumage

Dear All.

I would like to thank all the contributors both for and against !!  :)

Being undaunted and more importantly getting a 5 Kva alternator to play with for free!! I am going to have a real go at this project. We shall see which group will then have the privilege of saying "I TOLD YOU SO !!;D

My secret weapon, was secret before I provided the sketch below  :). A mechanical belt pulsing arrangement. I have also got a "Sprag clutch bearing" like a one way drive, may also be incorporated.

Please wish me luck whichever side of the fence you are currently sitting on.

Cheers Grum.

No clue 25

That sounds like the system I was looking to achieve.  Please post your findings.  I and I'm sure many others would love to see this work.  Then we can all power our houses or whatever.  Wish you had dc motors only cuz that's what I have and haven't gotten any clear answers as to if it would be better as the motor or generator but o well.  Very interested in your results.  Thanks

markdansie

Quote from: No clue 25 on January 17, 2014, 01:57:50 PM
That sounds like the system I was looking to achieve.  Please post your findings.  I and I'm sure many others would love to see this work.  Then we can all power our houses or whatever.  Wish you had dc motors only cuz that's what I have and haven't gotten any clear answers as to if it would be better as the motor or generator but o well.  Very interested in your results.  Thanks


I always like to encourage experiments as it always means something will be learned. No overunity will come from any motor, pulley, flywheel arrangement. I really admire your enthusiasm but you really did choose a great name for yourself here. I think you should visit Sterling Allans Freeenergy  news he is always looking for new blood to extract some money from like yourself.


Do not take this the wrong way I like everyone here, I just do not want people to have false expectations that is all and to all the experimenters I salute you


Mark

tinman

Quote from: ramset on January 17, 2014, 10:26:14 AM
Tinman
Not fair posting "Larry's" efforts ...........

However it is good to know you have not played with the loose belt theory ,

{Finally found something you haven't touched yet]  8)

I like Wings TV add guy's story , seems an honest possibility or A definate Maybe !
the idea of running a loose belt would get your knuckles wrapped in must garages
counter intuitive ,,,,,,,
Worth a good try I would say?

Thx
Chet
Who is Larry?,and what did i post that was his?.

Loose belt theory-no need to try,as the results are already known through over 30 years of mechanical/engineering experiance.
Loose belts cause the following.
Vibration--this equals electrical energy loss-energy transformation.
Heat through slip friction--this equals electrical energy loss-energy transformation.
Squealing/noise--this equals electrical energy loss-energy transformation.

Next problem with slipping belts is getting accurate P/in and P/out measurements.If the belt is loose and jumping/grabing, this means that the motor will see a load that is like a pulsed system. At one time (when the belt grabs)the motor will have a load applied to it,the next second,the belt slips or jumps,and the motor sees no load.How to accurately measure P/in while this is happening?. You only have to start up a car with a slipping belt,and you can hear some of your mechanical energy being turned into sound energy-and i bet the radiator fan is turning slower aswell,than it would if the belt was tight.

deanc5000 is going about it the right way-build and try with an open mind to the outcome.

My prediction on the outcome of his tests.
Tight belt-power drawn from system will directly reflect on the P/in of the system.And this will be at a loss.A constant load on the P/out should see the watt meter read a steady P/in,and RPM settle to a steady state-depending on P/out load.

Slipping/jumping belt-If the belt jumps(oscillates between grabbing and slipping),then the watt meter will not read a steady P/in,and P/out will be lower with the same constant load applied as in with the first test with tight belt.RPM of the flywheel will likely be lower aswell,and may even slowly decline.
If the belt just slips without the jumping,then the P/in on the watt meter will remain steady,and will probably read less than the P/in was with the tight belt and applied load. But the P/out will also be less,and the flywheel will slowly decrease in RPM until it reaches an equilibrium with the applied load.Squealing may also be heard,thus meaning some of the P/in is being converted into noise energy.

I sincerely hope that some one here proves me and the other naysayer wrong about any of the Qmogen system's.
I await to see deanc5000's result's,and encourage all to continue with there experiment's,and not just take my word on the outcome's.

Quote Chet: However it is good to know you have not played with the loose belt theory ,
Please see video's and reserch on Luc's reactive generator thread-belt was indeed slipping on my setup a couple of time's,which resulted in lower P/out,and Lower P/in.

Cheers
Brad