Bessler , Karl I! The fat lady is gonna sing , haters bring it I'm not skeered .

johnny874 · February 11, 2013, 07:20:39 AM

Quote from: zoelra on February 08, 2013, 10:20:57 AM
@onthecuttingedge2005

Chris has never been one to share critical details (and who really does for that matter). He has a way with words for sure, but he also has an acute mind in this area and he is highly motivated. Some of the greatest minds in the world lived during Bessler's day and yet none of them were able to come up with a solution. It was Bessler, so don't be so quick to count Chris out.

Zoelra,
Myself, I think Chris just wants the attention. And as for the cuttingedge, maybe if you could understand Bessler's work you would think other wise but you can't and don't.
And Zoe, most people who have something do show their work.

Jim

zoelra · February 11, 2013, 12:16:04 PM

Good to talk with you again Jim. I agree many people do discuss their ideas, as we have with the 2SO in the past, and of course as you appear to do (I say this because I don't know all the areas you are working in). But I think in general, most don't give out their inner most secrets, but I could be wrong. In the last few months I have seen a drop off in the serious discussions on BW, here, and on Collin's website. Not sure if everyone is getting tired, running out of ideas, or are close to a solution and don't want to discuss.

For those such as yourself who unselfishly share, a big thanks is in order, and I hope you are making progress towards the ultimate goal. I for one am concentrating on one of my OB wheel designs for the moment, but I can honestly say I'm not making much progress.

johnny874 · February 12, 2013, 09:37:58 PM

Quote from: zoelra on February 11, 2013, 12:16:04 PM
Good to talk with you again Jim. I agree many people do discuss their ideas, as we have with the 2SO in the past, and of course as you appear to do (I say this because I don't know all the areas you are working in). But I think in general, most don't give out their inner most secrets, but I could be wrong. In the last few months I have seen a drop off in the serious discussions on BW, here, and on Collin's website. Not sure if everyone is getting tired, running out of ideas, or are close to a solution and don't want to discuss.

For those such as yourself who unselfishly share, a big thanks is in order, and I hope you are making progress towards the ultimate goal. I for one am concentrating on one of my OB wheel designs for the moment, but I can honestly say I'm not making much progress.

Thanks so and nice to see you here.
I've been slowly working on it. I may know someone who is a skilled builder who might give it a try. If not, then even if I build only one section, the other 7 would be easy.
I think one problem everybody runs into is the details. Kind of why I'm going slow, I do need to get them right. And what I'm working on is what I've posted. I think sometimes it's difficult to communicate an idea to someone else. People just see things differently.

Jim

onthecuttingedge2005 · February 13, 2013, 12:38:45 AM

Quote from: johnny874 on February 11, 2013, 07:20:39 AM
Zoelra,
Myself, I think Chris just wants the attention. And as for the cuttingedge, maybe if you could understand Bessler's work you would think other wise but you can't and don't.
And Zoe, most people who have something do show their work.

Jim

it comes down to one thing, failure, why waste your time with it. 200 years of failure and everyone is still failing, are you hard headed learning that you should not put your hands on a burning stove and must test it your self?

only an intelligent switch/motor can get a gravity wheel to work and that in itself takes energy. it's useless and is wasting human time and resources.

if you follow this section of the forum you will have wasted spent hours where it counts the most, the greatest delivery of energy. I.E Nuclear, Fusion, Anti-Matter, these sources are the key to the future not your trivial Gravity wheel.

we and I express, we, have 4 billion years to get it right, you really think your gravity wheel is involved, lose it and you may save the human race from disgrace when our sun decides to destroy mother earth. time is money and lives here, you decide.

see, I don't think for just my generations, I think for all those who are born after me forever. may the human race survive and extend this though out the universe not just a planet who is going to die with assurance.

believe me, when science say this earth will die in 4 billion years it will happen.

Jerry

johnny874 · February 13, 2013, 01:13:50 PM

Jerry,
Check out this link; http://www.iter.org/

Myself, with Bessler I can improve my own life while making his work known.
Not sure if I should thank God, but thanks to my hearing loss, I have had much time to spend learning
and I would like to think that time was better spent than just watching television.
Here is a basic drawing of what Bessler realized, that opposing weighted levers counter balanced each other.
Yet when one drops, it's movement is wasted energy.
What a Bessler wheel can do is help me to convince the U.S government to change it's polciy and allow for a hearing loss to be a ratable disability for U.S. Veteran's like myself and at the same time, it could serve as a source of energy for 3rd world countries who have no means to pump water or generate even a small amount of electricity.
Batteries die and in emergencies, a radio can be a life saver.
By the way, in the pic, if the lever has a 1 lb. weight 1 foot from the fulcrum, that would be 1 ft. lb. of torque being wasted. And if it's force is applioed at a 5 to 1 ratio, it becomes 5 ft. lbs. of torque that can pump water.
And if the water being pumped is less than one lb. which could rotate a 12 lb. wheel, not sure why it's not worth a try.

By the way, if you check out other web sites about the technology ITER is using, some have had it actually generating energy but at what is considered to dangerous of a level because of the temperatures.
Still, have schooling in what I am pursuing as far as Bessler is concerned which includes classes on design engineering as well as propulsion engineering. It let's me use some of what I've learned