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Simple to build isolation transformer that consumes less power than it gives out

Started by Jack Noskills, July 03, 2012, 08:01:10 AM

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e2matrix

Quote from: Jack Noskills on July 05, 2012, 07:35:29 AM

You did not find anything wrong in my stoneaged testing method ?

If not then this is the way I see things now:
The World championship soccer game is 0-0, we are at the last minute of extra time on second period. This is the game-of-games, bigger than seventh game of Stanley Cup final, bigger than Super Bowl final, the biggest game there can ever be. The final game. You, barotolougos the goal keeper, prepares to block a penalty shot. All full of adrenaline and ready to block, your teammates are counting on you 'He can do it, we trained him extraordinaly well'. Trevor Buster, nick named 'TrollBuster' prepares to shoot. He knows that after this the game is over, there is no time left. Game-of-the-games will be finished after this, no matter what is the result. There is no pressure on his face, he is calm as the ocean, he has never felt as confident as now. What a wonderfull feeling that is. He steps just one step back from the ball as this is all he needs. He kicks the ball gently, as if it was a golf ball on the green right next to hole. Crowd goes mad, is this guy insane ! Loud moaning fills the stadium as 100 thousand people moan together. 500 million people moans together at their TV sets. We cannot win !!!! Ball starts to move, it rolls and rolls on.

It seems to take forever, you can almost taste the suspense. Ball reaches the goal and stops just after the goal line. Why isn't barotolougos the goalkeeper doing anything ? Oh lord he is just waving hands, seems he cannot reach the ball. Referee comes to check if it was a goal. He walks over slowly, looks on top the ball as that is the only way to see it exactly. Trevor is as calm as before, no sign of panic or fear in his face. Barotolougos the goalkeeper is swearing and spitting, why there is blood coming out of his face ? 'NO GOAL, NO GOAL' he screams in high pitch horrofied voice. Referee kneels down to get closer, suspense in unbelievable, Trevor turns around and begins to move towards center, slowly, calmly...

Referee stands up, blows in the whissle and points at the center. GOAAAAL! TrollBuster scored, crowd explodes, people at their homes in front of their TV sets begin to cry. To win the game-of-games all that was need was just one calm brilliant move, they have finally won the game after hundred years of waiting !

After game it was time for analysis, what in the world happened ! How barotolougos the goalkeeper could not catch that ball ! Slow motion shows that as the ball comes in he moves, so he must have seen it coming. But wait ! Why barotolougos the goalkeeper is behind the net ? You cannot catch the ball behind the goal, you only get mixed up with the net and hurt yourself. That explains why barotolougos the goalkeeper was bleeding. Now who ordered him there ? Pointing fingers turn to coach at the bench but he is not there anymore. He has left the stadium in a hurry and gone exile at north pole. He will never coach any team ever again. He is now history, forever.

This is as much I have to say for any offending posts that are not based on facts, you must be more clever. I hope you have as much fun as I had writing this, but wont respond again to negative opinions. Negative facts are a different story, they move things forward.

I will start my summer vacation after tomorrow, three weeks and no access to net. Meanwhile, the ball is now rolling and coming closer to goal...

I've got to say that was an awesome fun read !   If you don't make enough on your concept here you should be able to make it as a creative writer but if this all pans out I think you'll have no financial worries. 

e2matrix

Any suggestions on likely places to find 1:1 isolation transformers?  I've got hundreds of transformers on hundreds of circuit boards I've pulled out of all sorts of things from computer power supplies to monitors, TV's, printers and all sorts of things I've scrounged over the last few years.   I see some that are probably 1:1 but very unlikely to be high impedance looking at the windings (small number of winds at fairly large gauge). 

baroutologos

Quote from: Jack Noskills on July 05, 2012, 07:35:29 AM

You did not find anything wrong in my stoneaged testing method ?


I performed a similar test to ur setup.. just to see myself the whatever effect. Indeed at appropriate R (load) hence bulb, then the input current to working trafo is less that the current that the bulb takes. interesting at least! Hmm.. if you measure the currents that each winding has when operating you see that both amount larger than that incoming the load? How is that... interesting...

So, clearly you have vectors in play here. I did a measurement analysis and concluded, that this method although current multiplier resembles short of parallel LC if i may say.
Of course, i did not sticked with high impedances and high voltages as the original suggestion that might alter a bit the setup, but i am pretty confident this is all about.

Care to all experimenters: Input current concerning 2 similar bulbs is not indicating to inputing energy. Thus e.g you can have a 100mA @ 220v (hence 22watts asssuming P.F. 1) input current to working trafo and lamp A not glowing (or a bit) and the second one to be bright outputing all those 22 watts (got the idea?) 

Am i wrong? :D The ball is back to you :D

@e2matrix

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/IMO-Isolating-Transformer-MTSN-P-25-Pri-230V-Sec-230V-0-11A-I119K-/390414886600?pt=UK_BOI_Electrical_Components_Supplies_ET&hash=item5ae68a66c8#ht_948wt_1163

cheap one to test

ps: i had fun with penalty and stuff description! that is all this forum about :)

e2matrix

baroutologos,  Glad you took that well and in fun.   Thanks for the tip although I was mostly wondering what the common use is for this type of transformer in hopes that I might already have one.  Also I'd need 120 volt to avoid complicating things as I'm in the land of 120 VAC.  Thanks also for the confirmation that something is indeed interesting here with this easy setup.   

Jacknoskills,  can you comment where you found the transformers for your initial test?  (I see now it was Christmas light transformers ?).

AndrejSl

Looks very interesting...

I would like to replicate this, though i don't think i have any 1:1 transformers. Can anyone show me how to connect the two transformers to create a step-up - step-down transformers with a spark gap?

Also, do both 1:1 transformers need the same number of windings to achieve resonance, if not can you calculate the capacitance over T2 to achieve it?

Also forget about simulation to show you the right results, if this is energy from the environment (vacuum) which we don't yet know, then of course it's not going to show in the simulation, as the simulation software is still based on a standard model of electro-magnetism. Actually we can use the simulation to confirm the experiments. If the simulation shows different results, it actually means that there is something wrong with the simulation software or with the standard model of electro-magnetism.