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Thane heins Rodin pulse motor

Started by Jimboot, August 04, 2012, 09:34:38 AM

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synchro1

Jimboot,
            Higher r.p.m. lowers amp draw to the spinner power coil regardless of number of coil wraps. This is from the Magneto effect, or coil field produced by the spinner in the power coil. Why your speed is increasing with lesser power coil turns is a mystery. What kind of bearing is that your useing?
I achieved very high r.p.m.'s with a thread spool size bifilar wired in series with a reed switch. The 50k speeds were far in excess of the Reed switch speed and with amp draw flat. I believe the switch just grew shorted at above 18k. I'll upload pictures.

synchro1

@Jimboot,
                 These attachments show the tiny red wire, thread spool coil , sticking through the top of a CD. Also you can see how I minimized the bearing and axle to fit inside the spiral coil air core.
                  I believe that perhaps a spiral coil of fewer turns may reach Magneto back saturation sooner. Review Jonnydavro's "One magnet bearingless bedini" thread on Energetic Forum.

Jimboot

Ok here is where I am at. 12vdc x 600 ma 7.2 watt when the gen coil is not loaded and rotor is running at 21krpm When I measure the output direct to the dmm of the fwbr off the gen coil  I get around 250v x 30ma 7.5 watt
When I load the output of a gen coil with a cap or the run batt it speeds up to 30krpm and the run amps drop to 300ma. So our run consumption is now 3.6 watt. Presumably the output gen coil is higher but I'm not sure how to measure that as any load I connect to is going to effect the result. I.e when hooked to a separate 12v sla it shows 30v on a super cap different again. I guess I could measure the ac current and amps before the fwbr ? Not sure what calcs or setup should be to measure the output of gen coil when loaded. Au suggestions greatly appreciated. The only measurement I have is that if you earth yourself whilst holding the end of the output you get a hell of a bang. More than a cattle fence less than mains power :) my only two other reference points lol

crazycut06

Quote from: Jimboot on August 08, 2012, 07:59:43 AM
Ok here is where I am at. 12vdc x 600 ma 7.2 watt when the gen coil is not loaded and rotor is running at 21krpm When I measure the output direct to the dmm of the fwbr off the gen coil  I get around 250v x 30ma 7.5 watt
When I load the output of a gen coil with a cap or the run batt it speeds up to 30krpm and the run amps drop to 300ma. So our run consumption is now 3.6 watt. Presumably the output gen coil is higher but I'm not sure how to measure that as any load I connect to is going to effect the result. I.e when hooked to a separate 12v sla it shows 30v on a super cap different again. I guess I could measure the ac current and amps before the fwbr ? Not sure what calcs or setup should be to measure the output of gen coil when loaded. Au suggestions greatly appreciated. The only measurement I have is that if you earth yourself whilst holding the end of the output you get a hell of a bang. More than a cattle fence less than mains power :) my only two other reference points lol


Hi Jim,
Nice numbers you got there, it seems you got OU already with only one genny coil!  :o  Have you tried loading your gen. Coil with a 12v bulb? Say about 10watts  then what will be the output when loaded? Is it still 12v? or maybe higher? Or lower?


Regards cc

e2matrix

Quote from: MileHigh on August 05, 2012, 08:23:14 AM
Jimboot:

Let me just point out a few facts, not trying to give you a hard time:

If you measure the power consumption of your motor and compare that to the recharging power, just from looking at your clip it looks like the recharging power is only a small fraction of the power consumption of the motor.

It's not at all unusual to see the battery terminal voltage increase as the battery powers a load.  This has also been observed many times.
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MileHigh

"It's not at all unusual to see the battery terminal voltage increase as the battery powers a load." ???  WTF ?   How about sharing some examples of this apparently common phenomena?   

    I presume Jimboot has been around long enough to know who to ignore.