Richard VIALLE's new theory about negative mass and overunity

[tim123]

Hi Khwartz,
  I wanted to measure the resonance of the coil itself - with the various core - just to get a feel for it. I had another go yesterday -and got different results... I've had problems with my scope probes affecting the frequency of the circuit - and also my exciter coil had too much inductance...

I will reply to BlueDragon's post on the other forum today...

This is something which intriguing me much and I will need to clarify it with the guys in cos.com: if Richard's frequency couple with a supposed SPECIFIC frequency of the stuck electrons with the nucleus of the copper, how this frequency could CHANGE with the length of the bar?!

Yes, that occurred to me as well...

..would have more to do with looking for a kind of sonic LIKE resonance ...

That's an interesting idea... I made a set of tuned windchimes last year, and learned about the modes of resonance you can get with them...

Tubular bell chimes actually have a really wierd set of harmonics - which combine together to sound 'like' the fundamental frequency - but it doesn't actually make the fundamental...

  "The three lowest modes of vibration of a chime tube have frequencies with ratios 2:3:4. The ear perceives this as the pitch one octave below the fundamental by the missing fundamental effect."
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/music/tbell.html

You know how wind-chimes are supported by string about 1/5th of the way down the tube? That's because there's a 'node' at that point - and if you hold the tube there - it only produces the 'fundamental' frequency (i.e. 2:3:4).

Perhaps if the magnetic field was zero, or at least stable, at the node point - it would help the tube 'ring'...

And, if the coil was tuned in just the right way - i think that's exactly what you could get - with standing waves of magnetic field, which have null points in between them...

Nice one
Tim

PS - for the signal-generator - if you can buy a secondhand high quality one on ebay - or maybe from a shop where you live - then that may be better than the cheap chinese one...

I have 3 different cheap chinese ones - and they work fine - but you do get what you pay for - and none are perfect.

[tim123]

when you have chosen one, better to wrappe as close as possible of the core, the wire of the coil..
So, in the same idea, I advise you to change your "female" 10-12 mm copper caps for "male" ones...

Thanks for the tips. I'll see what i can find for inside plugs. After talking about windchimes I'm wondering about having movable plugs - to test the output along the tube - maybe find the 'node' points..?

Lol, if we had it, we wouldn't have needed to work so hard to recover the way to do! ...

Ah, i see... :/

Talking about the sonic / standing waves idea again... I wonder what the speed of sound in copper is - and whether it is related? Perhaps all these things have to synchronise for full effect...?


Tim

[verpies]

This is something which intriguing me much and I will need to clarify it with the guys in cos.com: if Richard's frequency couple with a supposed SPECIFIC frequency of the stuck electrons with the nucleus of the copper, how this frequency could CHANGE with the length of the bar?!

Perhaps through acoustic standing waves, which are formed by reflections from two ends of the bar and their frequency is determined by the length of the bar and the speed of sound in the bar.

                     Speed of       Speed of       Loss factor         Loss factor
                    Longitudinal      Shear         Longitudinal          Shear
Material            waves          waves            waves               waves
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Diamond      12000m/s
Aluminum       6374m/s       3111m/s      0.00003-0.0001      0.0001
Hard Ferrite   6300m/s 
Steel              5960m/s       3235m/s      0.00002-0.0003
Iron               5957m/s        3224m/s     0.0001-0.0004        0.0002-0.0006
Soft Ferrite    5700m/s
Copper          4759m/s        2325m/s     0.002                       0.002
Brass             4372m/s        2100m/s     0.0002-0.001        <0.001
Gold               3240m/s        1200m/s     0.0003
Lead              2160m/s          700m/s     0.05 - 0.3                0.02

...would have more to do with looking for a kind of sonic LIKE resonance of the wall bar (the ones which would have the largest amplitude, in the range of sensibility of the nucleus components), so indeed depending of the length and of the material, but could be an ELECTROMAGNETIC one (resonance).
By this resonance, closed enough to the frequency of the nucleus components...

Acoustic vibrations are known to affect nuclear structures.  There is even a book about it here.

[tim123]

Perhaps through acoustic standing waves, which are formed by reflections from two ends of the bar and its frequency is determined by the length pf the bar and the speed of sound in the bar.
Acoustic vibrations are known to affect nuclear structures.  There is even a book about it here.

Nuclear Acoustic Resonance, new one on me, cool, thanks Verpies

Reminds me of Keely... His research was so different from most - using acoustics...

[tim123]

I've had quite a few problems measuring resonant frequencies... So, the last set of results are only useful as a relative guide.
- Capacitance in scope probes. (Solution - Input signal probe left off)
- Capacitance in signal generator. (Solution- an extra earth wire to the coil)
- Too much inductance in exciter coil(?) (5 turns replaced with 2)

I've measured resonances for the 2 copper cores at a range of frequencies from 3.5MHz up to 25MHz - depending on the method chosen. So the results are somewhat inconclusive - and suggest the circuit as a whole is resonating, rather than the bars alone at some specific freq.

My current best estimate for the Vialle resonant freq of the bars is 7.9MHz - which is considerably higher than the predicted 6.5MHz...

I think I'll have to try it with more power - using the amp - and see how it behaves then. That'll have to wait for the heatsink glue.