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Richard VIALLE's new theory about negative mass and overunity

Started by Pascuser, August 28, 2012, 07:03:17 PM

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verpies

Quote from: tim123 on February 18, 2014, 03:00:19 PM
Hi Verpies,
attached are 2 photos of the scope showing the voltage at the MOSFET's gate.
This is with about 10v into the gate-driver...
Yellow trace is the signal-generator - blue is the gate.
Indeed the gate is not charged quickly enough at 1.3MHz and its amplitude suffers (6VPP )
..but at 110kHz it is fine (9.8VPP)

So the prudent thing to do is to increase the power supply to the UCC gate driver to 15V and/or decrease the gate resistors five times (or more).

scifi123

Quote from: tim123 on February 18, 2014, 03:00:19 PM
Hi Verpies,
attached are 2 photos of the scope showing the voltage at the MOSFET's gate.
This is with about 10v into the gate-driver...

Yellow trace is the signal-generator - blue is the gate.

  Tim,

  The transistor you have, the IRF450 is too slow to switch at 3.6MHz and even at 1.3MHz.
  If you add the switching times given in the datasheet you get 525ns. The total switching time should at least 5 times smaller than the period. To be comfortable, you should aim for 10 times less.
  For 3.6MHz, the period is 277ns and for 1.3MHz is 769ns.
  Therefore the total switching time should be at most 277/5=55.4ns or 769/5=153.8ns.

  Moreover for such high switching frequencies you should choose a SMD case, not a through hole one.

Khwartz

Quote from: verpies on February 18, 2014, 10:33:19 AM
Yes, the Aiding Bifilar Winding can be a substitute for a Back & Forth Winding, but it is less symmetrical due to the odd "back connection" and it has more self-capacitance.

However the Bucking Bifilar Winding is not a good replacement for a Back & Forth Winding.
In fact the Bucking Bifilar Winding is a very bad choice for a transformer winding (it's good for a wire-wound resistor, though)
Wow! I am amazed how much you are deep in your knowledge on all this stuff!

Very great stuff, imho :) thanks for taking time to provide these interesting details, which all added could make a big difference :) :)

Best regards.
K.

Khwartz

Translation of the
3rd Q&A of the present FAQ of the website on the work of Richard

*** NORMAL EFFECT? (Capacitive coupling? electromagnetic shone radiation?  ...) ***
http://richard-vialle.info/

(In agreement to the licence terms of the website, already published and taking no liability for any error of translation or modifications in between of the original terms of licence or of the original terms I translate here. These warnings applies to any writting by me on this website. )

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Q : La surunité ne pourrait-elle pas être expliquée par des phénomènes physique connus (transformateur, couplage capacitif, ondes électromagnétiques, etc.), n'est ce pas le cas ?
● Q: Couldn't the overunity be explained by known physical phenomena appearance  (transformer, capacitif coupling, electromagnetic waves, etc.), is this not the case?


R :  Extrait du document sur la première génération d'auto-générateur de Richard Vialle et autre inventor :
● R: Excerpt of the document on the first generation of Richard Vialle's auto-generator by other inventor:


"Après que j'aie vue cela chez Richard VIALLE, cet aspect de production en sortie [...] m'avait fait penser que le courant de sortie pouvait n'être qu'un effet normal dû à un couplage capacitif entre le bobinage servant de plaque de condensateur et la pince croco (ou tout autre morceau du fil conducteur) servant de deuxième plaque, l'air et le plastique du fourreau les séparant étant le diélectrique. Finalement la pince croco ne ferait que dériver du courant depuis l'entrée, courant qui ne proviendrait d'aucun effet anormal.
● " After I saw it from Richard VIALLE, this aspect of output production [...] had reminded me that the exit current could be only a normal effect due to a capacitif coupling between the winding serving as plate of capacitor and the crocodile clips (or any different piece of the electrical wire) serving as the second plate, the air and the plastic of the sheath separating them being the dielectric. Finally the crocodile clips would only be deriving from the current since the input, current which would come from no abnormal effect.


Après en avoir débattu longuement avec Richard VIALLE et que des tests et mesures aient été menés aussi bien par moi que par Alain B. et Richard VIALLE, on peut affirmer que ce n'est absolument pas un couplage capacitif qui dérive de l'énergie depuis l'entrée qui puisse expliquer ce phénomène.
● Having discussed it for a long time with Richard VIALLE and that tests and measures led as well by me as by Alain B. and Richard VIALLE, we can assert that it is absolutely not the capacitif coupling that derives from the energy from the input which can explain this phenomenon.


Les arguments qui montrent que ce n'est pas le cas : le calcul du courant qui circule dans le très mauvais condensateur constitué par la capacité bobinage/pince croco montre qu'on devrait avoir vraiment beaucoup moins que ce qui sort dans l'ampoule.
● The arguments which show that it is not the case: the calculation of the current which circulates in the very bad condenser constituted by the capacity winding / crocodile clip shows that we should really have much less that what goes out to the bulb. 


Des considérations sur des différences de potentielles nécessaires pour mettre les courants en mouvement par cet effet capacitif en ayant fait de nombreux tests de br anchement de certains points à la masse montrent qu'il n'y a pas de différence de potentielle suffisante.
● Considerations on potential differences  necessary to put the currents in movement by this capacitif effect by having making numerous tests of connection of certain points for the mass show that there is not enough potential difference.


Et des tests de court-circuitage de ce pseudo-effet capacitif par des feuilles d'aluminium reliées à la masse du générateur de fonction montrent que la production de sortie reste présente (très légèrement diminuée).
● And tests of bypassing of this capacitif pseudo-effect by aluminum sheets connected with the mass of the function generator show that the production of output remains present (very slightly decreased).


Donc un effet capacitif, il peut y en avoir un, mais il est largement négligeable face à ce que nous mesurons, et aussi bien les calculs de courant, mesure de différence de potentiel et expérience de court-circuitage de cet effet montrent qu'un large effet anormal subsiste qui n'est pas du TOUT explicable par la dérivation capacitive depuis l'entrée.
● Thus a capacitif effect, can have one but he is largely unimportant compare to what we measure, and as well the calculations of current, measure of potential difference and experiment of bypassing of this effect show that a wide abnormal effect remains which is not AT ALL explicable by the capacitive deriving from the input.


Le rayonnement électromagnétique non plus ne peut pas expliquer ce qui est obtenu.
● The electromagnetic radiation either cannot explain what is obtained.



Non seulement le calcul montre que la bobine réalisée par le fil entourant le fourreau a une longueur totalement inadaptée à un rayonnement de la longueur d'onde émise, même par des harmoniques ; mais de plus l'énergie rayonnée n'est pas suffisante pour provoquer l'éclairage par effet d'induction.
● Not only the calculation shows that the coil made around the sheath has a length totally in disagreement with the radiation of the emitted wavelength, even by harmonics; but even more: the shone energy is not enough to cause the lighting by effect of induction.


Enfin l'enveloppement de l'ensemble du demi-barreau avec son bobinage dans une feuille de papier d'aluminium mise à la Terre a montré que la production de sortie était toujours présente (mais diminuée ; en fait la fréquence d'obtention de surunité était modifiée, en modifiant la fréquence on pouvait obtenir la même luminosité).
● Finally the envelope of the whole half-bar with its winding in an earthed aluminum sheet showed that the production of the output was always present (but decreased; in fact the frequency to obtain the overunity was modified, by modifying the frequency we could obtain the same luminosity). 


Donc le rayonnement n'est pas non plus la cause.
● Thus the radiation is not either the cause.


De toute façon pour terminer, les mesures de puissance réellement consommées en entrée ont ensuite pu montrer que la puissance entrée est très inférieure à la puissance sortie (que la puissance d'entrée soit ensuite rayonnée ou couplée capacitivement à la sortie ou par tout autre artefact, et les pertes par effet Joule dans le bobinage d'entrée qui la consomment).
● Anyway to conclude: the measures of power really consumed at the input were then able to show that the input power is very lower than the out power (what ever the input power is then shone or coupled capacitively with the output or by any different artefact, and the losses by effect Joule in the winding of input which consume it). 


Ceci montre qu'il y a une anomalie et donc bien de la surunité."
● This shows that there is an anomaly and thus indeed overunity. " 

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Wishing this could help,
Best regards,
K.

tim123

Hi Folks,
  It's all working ok, and I have some results... :)

1) I'm able to light a small incandescent bulb from the 2 copper tubes in the coil. Picture attached of the setup.
- The resonant frequency for my 2 6" copper tubes is around 3.7MHz.
- It is a sharp resonance being much dimmer at 3.6 or 3.8MHz, an the lamp doesn't light at all past about 3.5/3.9Mhz...

2) Power into the transistor is about 60v, and 0.37a (about 22w)

3) The gate-driver setup has a sweet spot at about 5.7v.
- It keeps the current through the gate & the mosfet reasonably low, but there's a peak of lamp brightness there too.
- Above 5.7v the load current reduces, and the lamp dims, up to about 7v where it reaches it's former brightness again.

4) The scope shot shows:
- Yellow - the Gate voltage
- Blue - the Drain voltage

5) I think my gate driver needs power resistors - the 1/4w ones can't take the current with the full 15v available. They get very hot at 9v.
They're currently at 10 Ohms, I'm tempted to try 5 Ohms to see if I can improve the gate signal.
The UCC211 can handle 0.3a continuous at 18v according to the specs - so a pair of 5 watt resistors maybe?
Maybe I'll just put a load of 1/4w ones together so I don't have to worry about them burning out...

6) In order to measure the input & output HF power, I'd like to build something like Verpies HF wattmeter...
I suppose an off-the-shelf SWR meter would be good enough to make relative measurements though...

:)
Tim