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Overunity Machines Forum



Richard VIALLE's new theory about negative mass and overunity

Started by Pascuser, August 28, 2012, 07:03:17 PM

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tim123

Khwartz,
  I read the comments about 'standard resonance' vs. Vialle resonance on , and i think I'm only seeing the standard version ATM. The amp should help...

I'm re-reading some Keely stuff. This one's interesting - and it could be related...
"Sound and Gravity" - http://www.keelynet.com/davidson/sound1.htm

Khwartz

Hi tim and Verpies.

Very thanks for your contributions :)

I hope I will be able to answer or comment in more details soon.

For now I would like just to point out I was more about true electromagnetic resonance like based on the speed of the electronic phase wave in the material (~ 277 000 000 m.s^-1 for the pure copper), but any synchronisation with soundwave could be interesting too, indeed! (Thanks Verpies to remember resonance magnetic effect studies :) and very great you have developed skills about waves, dear tim, cause all is about waves in physics, imo :) ).

May one of you calculate the resonance modes of copper bars, based on the speed of the electronic phase wave? Looking for the parallel with the WSR (which is itself related to the fourth lengh wave and Ferranti effect)? And see if we could find something approaching Richard's frequency or the one you find experimentally?  ;)

Best regards to all and see you hopefully tomorrow :)

Khwartz

Quote from: tim123 on February 01, 2014, 06:54:38 AM
Hi Khwartz,
  I wanted to measure the resonance of the coil itself - with the various core - just to get a feel for it.
Understand :)


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I had another go yesterday -and got different results... I've had problems with my scope probes affecting the frequency of the circuit - and also my exciter coil had too much inductance...
OK.

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I will reply to BlueDragon's post on the other forum today...
Very good, he very well knows about all of this.

Colas07 and Bigaros, in addition to Pascuser have much practice of the device.

Bigaros is one of the firts having replicated the avalanche effect, if I am not mistaking,  but sure he has worked on it.

Colas tries to replicate it systematically and get skills in tuning with the help of the Smith chart. I am still continuing to go through the 18 page of his very interesting replication which has became a real research now.


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Yes, that occurred to me as well...

That's an interesting idea... I made a set of tuned windchimes last year, and learned about the modes of resonance you can get with them...
Could probably help us indeed you know that stuff now :)

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Tubular bell chimes actually have a really wierd set of harmonics - which combine together to sound 'like' the fundamental frequency - but it doesn't actually make the fundamental...
:) In the TPU replication here in ou.com, if I remember well, few sent 3 frequencies at the same time to run the device and were much about and skill to produce accurate frequencies, very precised and stable I suppose, frequencies like with using vacuum tubes instead of usual silicon electronics.

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  "The three lowest modes of vibration of a chime tube have frequencies with ratios 2:3:4. The ear perceives this as the pitch one octave below the fundamental by the missing fundamental effect."
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/music/tbell.html
Interesting, thanks for sharing :)


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You know how wind-chimes are supported by string about 1/5th of the way down the tube? That's because there's a 'node' at that point - and if you hold the tube there - it only produces the 'fundamental' frequency (i.e. 2:3:4).
Very interesting indeed :)


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Perhaps if the magnetic field was zero, or at least stable, at the node point - it would help the tube 'ring'...
I follow you :) but the waves lengths are not of the same magnitudes ;)


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And, if the coil was tuned in just the right way - i think that's exactly what you could get - with standing waves of magnetic field, which have null points in between them... ;)
That is the TPU base. It is in the nodes, null points, the extra energy coming from zpe is supposed to come in our dimensions. But remember these are just conjectures and has not been truly proven nor verified.

Otherwise, not sure we can produce "nodes" of magnetic field. Of voltage, current, wave phase, but for magnetic would need to ne checked, if magnetic field is not already a steady standing waves system.

Would we have a kind of phase wave for a magnetic field?

But "ringing" devices were made until now by voltage and current waves.

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Nice one :)

Lets see if we can do something with ;)

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Tim

PS - for the signal-generator - if you can buy a secondhand high quality one on ebay - or maybe from a shop where you live - then that may be better than the cheap chinese one...

I have 3 different cheap chinese ones - and they work fine - but you do get what you pay for - and none are perfect.
Very Thanks for the advise, dear tim, but for now I can't afford probably, even for a second hand. But I will look for the price and the disponibility. I will ask Colas and BlueDragon for the specifics of such material. Woppy told me that if he can he will buy one for his possible replication :)

Best regards,
K.

verpies

Quote from: Khwartz on February 02, 2014, 05:14:53 AM
May one of you could calculate the resonance modes of copper bars, based on the speed of the electronic phase wave?
How is that different from a ΒΌ-wavelength EM antenna ?
What is the direction of propagation that you envison?

P.S.
If you assume that electrons are responsible for the electric current in a solid conductor, then their speed calculates to be very slow (on the order of cm/h).  Though, it is only an assumption, based on the prevalent inability to form an alternate explanation for current conduction in solid conductors.

verpies

Quote from: tim123 on February 02, 2014, 04:55:13 AM
I'm re-reading some Keely stuff. This one's interesting - and it could be related...
"Sound and Gravity" - http://www.keelynet.com/davidson/sound1.htm
The nuclear frequencies, that the author describes in this article, are known to be dependent on magnetic flux density.  e.g. for Copper, this resonance occurs at 1132Hz/Gauss,  1110Hz/G for Aluminum, 1058Hz/G for Manganese, 267Hz/G for Zinc, 138Hz/G for Iron (saturated), etc...

Hence, in Earth's magnetic field of 0.5G, Copper atoms will resonate at 566Hz and in the field of a strong electromagnet or a permanent magnet (e.g. 10000G), copper atoms will resonate at 11.32MHz.

The author of this article has taken his research further and patented this device.
The device described therein uses acoustic vibrations in a magnetic circuit containing a PM, to produce excess energy.