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Overunity Machines Forum



Heron's Fountain

Started by Pirate88179, August 28, 2012, 09:22:21 PM

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johnny874

Quote from: Pirate88179 on August 30, 2012, 01:29:59 AM
Johnny:

Why do you persist to try to derail folks that are actually doing real experiments here?  If you are not intelligent enough to follow along, i can understand that but, please stop with the trash talk.  We do not put up with that here....you get me?  If you want to contribute something constructive, that is fine...but trashing me and TK is NOT constructive.  Post YOUR fountain that you claim is OU.  Where is it?  Oh...you can't make it but it works right?  Everyone here sees right through you so...please give it up.

Bill

  Bill,
Just because you do not understand engineering is no reason for you to attack me.
All anyone has to do is make a working Heron's Fountain and mark the water levels. Then when
they disassemble it, they can cut the tubes to the height of the water level or just below it. After all,
anyone who has gone to school for this type of engineering kmows that water and air follow the same
principles when they are working within a system. It's true one is called pneumatic and the other
hydraulic, but their force potential is calculated just the same when pressurized.
And by using short tubes, as I mentioned, water would be pumped from one chamber to the next. After
all, water is pumped from the last chamber, right ? It is because if it wasn't so, then it wouldn't be called Heron's
Fountain. So why not pump water from one chamber to the next ? This would maintain a continuous flow.
And this is completely on topic. I hope you are not upset because I made an observation that you missed Bill.
Of course, this could create a problem with patent rights. After all, those big bad companies come after people
who build what they sale. Haven't seen it happen yet but will take your word for it. But since i do plan on building
Bessler's wheel and as I have often stated, if what i post leads to an invention, I am perfectly willing to donate said
patent rights to charity. And if heron's Fountain is found to work perpetually by making modifications I have
suggested and is considered my invention, then people like FatBird can pick a charity to give the rights to the invention to.

                                                                                                                         Johnny

p.s., this will probably be the coolest pm device a person could think of, a fountain. Ya'all do realize that Heron was pretty
smart to have realized hydraulics could work in such a fashion.

edited to complete a sentence.

johnny874

 you know bill, if you look at what you and tk posted in the my invention thread, it was nothing but a mind game, niether of you at no time considered discussing what the thread was about.
and yet what are you posting now ? insults and nothing else. you lack the intelligence to understand that heron's fountain didn't work because of gravity but because of a pressure difference and that having a smaller discharge or outlet tube than the fill tube allows hydraulic pressure to work in the direction of least resistence.
so go ahead and insult me if you like. it is all you and your friens have ever done,

Pirate88179

I am in the process of rebuilding my fountain using clear plastic tubing (think hose) instead of the drinking straws I used originally.  They we only 8" long and I had to butt "weld" them together to get the lengths I needed and, when preparing to make a video tonight I noticed that one of the "welds" had come undone.  I destroyed the other joints when taking it apart as you can't unscrew the cap once the tubes are glued to the screw caps because when you turn the caps, it rips apart the connections.....well...you get the idea.  I had a roll of clear plastic tubing sitting about so I am using that this time.  No joints so, less chance for leaks in this area.

Once I get it up and running, I WILL post a video of it.  I found some water soluble florescent yellow paint left over from my Wilby's Bird experiments and I mixed it in water.  If I can dig up my ultraviolet  leds, that should look pretty good when operating in the dark.

Right now, I am waiting for the superglue to dry on my caps connections.

Will post as soon as I can.

Bill
See the Joule thief Circuit Diagrams, etc. topic here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6942.0;topicseen

johnny874

Quote from: Pirate88179 on August 30, 2012, 11:14:39 PM
I am in the process of rebuilding my fountain using clear plastic tubing (think hose) instead of the drinking straws I used originally.  They we only 8" long and I had to butt "weld" them together to get the lengths I needed and, when preparing to make a video tonight I noticed that one of the "welds" had come undone.  I destroyed the other joints when taking it apart as you can't unscrew the cap once the tubes are glued to the screw caps because when you turn the caps, it rips apart the connections.....well...you get the idea.  I had a roll of clear plastic tubing sitting about so I am using that this time.  No joints so, less chance for leaks in this area.

Once I get it up and running, I WILL post a video of it.  I found some water soluble florescent yellow paint left over from my Wilby's Bird experiments and I mixed it in water.  If I can dig up my ultraviolet  leds, that should look pretty good when operating in the dark.

Right now, I am waiting for the superglue to dry on my caps connections.

Will post as soon as I can.

Bill

  here's a way you might try it Bill, just trying to be helpful.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5LpJAR3cM0

johnny874

  By the way, am fairly certain I know how to make it perpetual.
could tell someone after they build one and uncerstands why it works. it might actually be easier to build.
but there is that nagging question of why bother patenting and getting xome reimbursement for the years of work I put into learning this stuff.