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Heron's Fountain

Started by Pirate88179, August 28, 2012, 09:22:21 PM

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TinselKoala

Quote from: johnny874 on September 14, 2012, 03:04:28 PM
tk,
y not u and bill post an idea and discuss it with other people, your own original mechanical idea. if u 2 cant, then I guess u dont support overunity using gravity.

Whether or not I post and discuss my own original mechanical ideas is irrelevant to whether or not I "support overunity using gravity".   So you are wrong twice in two sentences, because I do post plenty of my own work, unlike you, Jimpbo, and I don't support OU using gravity _anyway_.

Yes, you are a fraud, Jimpbo, because you talk and talk and talk about what you are _going_ to do, but all you've managed actually to do is to post flame after flame, insult and lie, and two tiny videos showing your failed explanations of something you saw in MY VIDEO which was published ten days before your silly misleading pressurised dual chamber video.

Quoteedited to add; Heron's fountain is your invention ? Glad to know that.

More lies, Jimpbo?  Keep digging. Here you are implying that I said Heron's Fountain is "my invention". Nowhere ever have I said or implied that Heron's Fountain is "my invention". I even give proper credit to MrWayne for the "zed" idea. My application of the Zed using multiple chambers to Heron's fountain IS my idea, though, and the dates of the videos and the dates of your comments prove that I could not have "ripped you off" as your libellous claim goes.

You really need to stop all these lies and misrepresentations, Jimbo, or your Kentucky judge is gonna really throw the book at you. Every single lie you tell about me is a separate count, you know.

Pirate88179

Quote from: johnny874 on September 14, 2012, 12:30:10 PM

  Really.
by the way Bill, would you like me to get my old phone records to PROVE I have talked to you and AB Hammer (Alan Bauldree) on the phone ?
Phone records are always saved wouldn't you know.
It wouldn't be worth the effort though to prove you wrong. As for stefan, it doesn't matter to me if he doesn't believe overunity isn't possible, that's the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics. still, if he finds the possibilty interesting of MAYBE, I'm okay with that.
But I think anyone can see how unrelenting you are because you have something to prove.
As for getting banned, I'm not the one who would lose Bill, it would be this forum because my work would not be allowed in here.
Of course, when Stefan bans me, that is something he will need to believe in, won't he ? Just as AB Hammer and tinselkoala do not believe I should be allowed to work on idea's in this forum. And that IS why working openly is problematic.

                                                                                                                                                Bye

So now I have talked to you on the phone?  Are you serious?  Is this where you claim I have slandered you?  I would love to see these records Jim.  Produce them.  You can't?  Why?  Oh, another lie...I get it.  Poor Bessler probably turns over in his grave every time you mention his name.  Did you speak to him on the phone also?

Holy crap!

Bill
See the Joule thief Circuit Diagrams, etc. topic here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6942.0;topicseen

AB Hammer

Quote from: Pirate88179 on September 14, 2012, 08:32:07 PM
So now I have talked to you on the phone?  Are you serious?  Is this where you claim I have slandered you?  I would love to see these records Jim.  Produce them.  You can't?  Why?  Oh, another lie...I get it.  Poor Bessler probably turns over in his grave every time you mention his name.  Did you speak to him on the phone also?

Holy crap!

Bill
Greetings Bill


Back in the older days when we first talked. Is the time Jim Lindguard is  talking about. Now days I find it more interesting talking to a rock instead of Jim. At least I don't have to keep an eye on the rock.  LOL


P.S. some people can't tell the difference between a delusion and the truth.
With out a dream, there can be no vision.

Alan

johnny874

Quote from: johnny874 on August 31, 2012, 01:01:37 PM
  here's a drawing of my version of Herons Fountain.
Because the fill tube has a larger diameter, it can over fill a reservoir beneath it into another reservoir where the discharge tube is located. This barrier would prevent the 2 static heads from balancing themselves which they would do.
If anyone bothers to build Heron's fountain, you'll find out that the discharge tube as in the video is a smaller static head. And it's the mass of the static head that generates the air pressure for pumping out the reservoir where the outlet tube is located.
The top view is looking straight down at it. should give everyone a decent idea of how a simple pmm might be built.

   @All,
When I posted this idea, except for tinselkoala posting a link to his video, no comments were made.
Nobody said this was their idea and that they had thought of it.
After 2 builds demonstrating that it has potential, then it became soemone else's idea. Why ?
Links to the 2 videos which were ignored by anyone claiming this is their idea. The links were posted in the thread Modified heron's Fountain.
the first video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hF6lmb1oLEo
the second video and notice the air leak (bubbles)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7V-cH7ytQI

by the way all, as this is impossible, so to is Bessler's wheel. Actually, they're not but and understanding of engineering is necessary.

And thanks to Stefan Hartmann for allowing me to defend myself against my accusers, it is very much appreciated.
If anyone reads what I posted, if anyone wished to try it. Nobody did. I was willing to work with pirate88719, tinselkoala and magluvin but unfortunately I don't know anything they care to hear about. BTW, gadgetmall is afreindly with them as well.
Still, they can show where in my post or any post after that where they claimed that what I posted was their design. This is something the thread will show they ignored.

edited to correct spelling

edited to add;
what makes my concept or design different is that it considers perpetuallity. With the first video, if the tall, narrow tube were cut off beneath the water line, then the water could flow to the shorter, larger diameter tube which might have allowed for a conitinuous flow.
With the second video, it was mostly to confirm that the 2 pressure heads would act independently of each other with the shorter, larger diameter tube performing the work.
If you notice one thing I did not do that Heron did was that I did not have water in the area the water was to be pumped from. I only filled the shorter, larger diameter tube. So with the first video, all water flowed through only one tube and rose to a height higher than the water level of the tube pumping it.
If I had water in the area to be pumped, then less air would have been displaced allowing for a greater internal air presure and most liekly more water being pumped with less water being inserted into the Heron's Fountain type device.
That's engineering folks  ;) 

TinselKoala

You left something out of your "explanation" there, Johnny Jimpbo.

The two videos that Jimpbo Johnny has linked to above were posted to You Tube on SEPTEMBER 6 and SEPTEMBER 4.


My videos showing my use of the multiple internal chambers were published on YouTube  on AUGUST 24 and AUGUST 25.

That is right.... ELEVEN FULL DAYS, a week and a half AFTER I published my videos, Johnny Jimpbo comes up with his "idea".


Not only that, but Jimpbo's videos don't even show what he thinks they show at all.

Where is Jimpbo's perpetual Heron's Fountain? In his dreams only. People -- and his illnesses -- are preventing him from building it.