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Heron's Fountain

Started by Pirate88179, August 28, 2012, 09:22:21 PM

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johnny874

  @onthecuttingedge,
Nothing personal but because of my hearing loss, I have had time to study math and engineering that other people haven't had.
Once I have my shop set up, I may build my design using wood and plexiglass. If it doesn't work, then I'll have myself a custom fish aquarium. Either way, I'll have something to show for my efforts.
Still, I will be looking forward to being able to doing some building, I actually enjoy working on things.

  Johnny874/yt ~ bessler2011

Pirate88179

Quote from: johnny874 on December 12, 2012, 08:49:52 PM
  @onthecuttingedge,
Nothing personal but because of my hearing loss, I have had time to study math and engineering that other people haven't had.
Once I have my shop set up, I may build my design using wood and plexiglass. If it doesn't work, then I'll have myself a custom fish aquarium. Either way, I'll have something to show for my efforts.
Still, I will be looking forward to being able to doing some building, I actually enjoy working on things.

  Johnny874/yt ~ bessler2011

You have never built anything before so, why should we think you are going to this time?  You have all of these sorry excuses why you can't build anything and yet you try to steal other people's ideas when they do build something.  You have been saying for over 4 years now that any day now, you are going to build something.  You lie all of the time about everything else Jimbo, so, I think you are not telling the truth again.

Try building a simple Heron's fountain that works first.  You do not need a shop to do that, ha ha ,but then again, maybe you do.  Just some bottles, some glue and some tubes.  You won't even have to learn how to use power tools to do this.

But yet, you can't even build one of these.  So sad really.

Bill
See the Joule thief Circuit Diagrams, etc. topic here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6942.0;topicseen

onthecuttingedge2005

Quote from: onthecuttingedge2005 on December 12, 2012, 01:40:29 PM
Heron invented it and he probably spent his entire life trying to figure out 'why' it wouldn't work. you are doing the same.

you didn't get it did you? don't waste your time on this earth on Heron's fountain. if you really are sick then it is even worse that you waste your 'precious' time on a device that will never perpetuate. I 'could' get it to work but it would require an alpha particle emitter that is always hot. if it's not hot it won't go. simple rule.

johnny874

Quote from: onthecuttingedge2005 on December 13, 2012, 03:37:35 AM
you didn't get it did you? don't waste your time on this earth on Heron's fountain. if you really are sick then it is even worse that you waste your 'precious' time on a device that will never perpetuate. I 'could' get it to work but it would require an alpha particle emitter that is always hot. if it's not hot it won't go. simple rule.

  But I do "get it". I'm building Bessler's wheel and maybe I will try it, maybe I won't.
It can't be any worse than saying the Jewish Exodus in the Bible runs through the Wadi Tumilat Depression in Egypt. It would have been a sea of reeds or Yam Suph when the canal linking the Nile River to the Red Sea was in use. It even has ancient cities near what would have been it's shoreline.
But there is one thing I do know that thankfully everyone doesn't and that is to know the difference between having normal hearing and having a hearing loss. I know the difference it has made in my life and that is where as I mentioned I happen to have a lot of free time. It seems people like stereotyping and when it comes to a hearing loss, I might as well be retarded, I get treated the same way. So to me, it is kind of insulting to be told how to live my life by people who are bored with theirs. Have had coworkers harass me over trying to meet someone. No reason for it but they think because they think they know something that I should live by it.
Still, I will be spending about $500.00 on a table saw and a wood lathe and as I mentioned, an aquarium would be cool. Guess you haven't been around people that have done custom work but at the same time it would be kind of cool to show where people have missed something about Heron's work. They could have been to busy watching the fountain.
There is one quote dating to the 1670's where some guy said tell someone not to do something and sure enough he will do it. Of course, I would have liked to have had a family but people told me to "get it" and that meant that when I did what they told me that they were being nice and helping me. All they did was to keep me from having a life. Kind of why I am motivated and other people are not. So you guys won't be able to say why it's impossible but then when I try to meet someone, no one will cause me problems. And to me that is worth taking the chance.
Besides, I am taking on the U.S> Government and it's position on a hearing loss as a disability. They say ti isn't because people like me can work. They ignore the lack of life that discrimination accounts for. You should be telling me not to be doing that, one person against the government can't possibly win but I have already filed an appeal with the V.A. citing hearing loss only as a reason I should have my hearing loss rated as a disability.
I think I will when and the U.S. will be embarrassed by it's callous attitude towards people like myself. I am looking forward to it and at the same time maybe showing Christians where they aren't as smart as they think they are by having gotten the Exodus wrong. I'll be killing 2 birds with one stone but then then they'll be better off for it in the long run which sometimes is important.  :D ;)

edited to add; @All, what I do get is people who have nothing but bad advice to offer have plenty to say. It is as ab hammer once told me, I don't want to build Bessler's wheel. He knows this because he claims he is a prophet and if I build it, he made it clear that he wants credit for giving me visions so people will accept his view of things. Of course, people who are to lazy to take the time to learn usually don't like those that do and this forum anymore seems to be inundated with people who want to sound smart but aren't.
And as for myself, no reason I shouldn't be allowed to enjoy doing the build I am working on.
I guess this is where overunity.com has become a skeptics forum, you know, the path less traveled.
But I think I will stay on the mudy path I am on because it's in Bessler's trax that I follow and anyone familiar with his story (history) knows that he went it alone because few appreciated his accomplishment. Isn't it funny how things haven't changed ?

                                                                                                                     Johnny

johnny874

    @All,
if tinselkoala is an anagram for Nikola Tesla, then when I refered to Alan's work as Marconi's radio, the appropriate response would have been that Alan, er tinselkoala was demonstrating Tesla's attempt at a wireless distribution system. Niether one mentioned Tesla's work to demonstrate that tinselkoala is familiar with it.
Kind of why I say B.S.
As to the Jews and the Egyptians, the Egyptians during Ramses time were sea faring people who had a port on the Red Sea. Elephants could've easily moved the ships up stream (canal) and controlled their descent to the Red Sea.
the Indus River people are one group they could have traded with as they were located in the Indus River Valley in northwestern India and had the first use of running water.
Of course, east Africa and Asia also would have been possible. Still, the Jews were used to move Heliopolis because a drought had changed the course of the Nile River. And this could be one reason why some temples were built up river, to try to keep the water flowing.
And with both temple moving and deconstructing buildings and reassembling them, mud brick would have been used. After all, flooding it with water would have let it be washed out when finished building. And for deconstructing things, using things twice like the stones the Egyptian buildings were composed of, it would have been easier to reuse them than quarry new ones.
Still, I will be able to get a lot of work done on my Bessler build as the work I will need the wood lathe for would be some details that would be needed towards the end of the build.
Not sure, but think Bessler left sufficient information to get credit for his work even though it was unappreciated in his time. And for fun, after Bessler, I may ask the History Channel about getting some info from scholars who are well versed in the Exodus and see about doing a show that would pretty much account for the Exodus as it is written in the Bible. The only change would be wall of water instead of walls of water.
It may be that the s at the end of walls in Ancient Hebrew could have been possessive in the tense they wrote the word then. Don't know much about that language but doubt it would hurt to ask. And no, I don't go to church, they didn't like my kind. Kind of like in here.  :o

                                                                                                                    Jim / Johnny874