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Mehran T. Keshe Technologies

Started by AbbaRue, August 31, 2012, 11:45:09 PM

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Jimboot

Just left a comment on your channel. Are you sure the lights being switched is not just causing interference in your scope? Interesting that you are getting ac from your cells though. Thanks

TinselKoala

Quote from: AbbaRue on March 30, 2014, 07:04:31 PM
It's been a long time since I started this thread but I've been waiting for some solid info to share before further posts. 
And here it is.  I replicated Mr. Keshe's nano coated copper technology and build some power cells from it. 
Here is a video of my first cell setup.  This was just a quick test setup, I have the parts ready to set up a new set of cells that use bigger electrodes.
I discovered a very interesting phenomenon while taking oscilloscope readings.  Please watch the video to see my results.
This stuff is so easy to replicate that a little kid could do it, just got to work safe with the Sodium Hydroxide, it can destroy your eye site.
Always wear eye protection if nothing else.

http://youtu.be/2rn7MIdXFco

I am afraid that you are reading garbage on your oscilloscope. You are not using it properly and it is not displaying a stable signal. If I am not mistaken you are showing the channel "AC coupled" as well. The frequencies and voltages you are reading are just noise. When you turn on the lights you are now picking up RF from the CFL's power supply. Most of the noise you are showing would probably go away if you grounded your input properly. The cells and wiring are acting like a huge antenna; some of what you are seeing on the scope is actually coming from your house wiring surrounding your room.

There is much "finesse" involved in using oscilloscopes properly and there are people here who may be able to help you learn to use yours better. For example, the "AC coupled" setting is _not_  primarily for reading AC voltages, it is for removing DC offsets. Are you using a proper shielded probe? I see the channel is set to "1x" attenuation.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykX4nZglnGE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVFyaQY6pR0

TinselKoala

You stimulated me into making a little video. I didn't have time to set up any cells....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSfSswzlWJw

:'( :'(


I'm pretty sure that your cells will be producing an actual straight DC level, and that you will see some noise on top of that ripple. May I suggest the following:

1. Use an attenuated probe, 10x. Hook the "ground" or reference lead to the cathode of your LED. Hook the "tip" or probe to the anode of the LED.
2. Set the channel input to DC coupled, 10x to match the probe, and 1 or 2 volts per vertical division. If your scope has an offset setting, set it to Zero, or manually set the channel baseline to the center graticule marker.
3. Set the trigger to trigger on the same channel you are reading, and at a level of about 0.5 volts positive.
4. Now scan through the various horizontal timebase settings to see if there is some slow or fast oscillation or pulsation you might be able to catch.

This should show you the DC level that your cells are putting out. Once you know the value of this level by looking at it at reasonable resolution and DC coupled, then you can see if there is a ripple sitting on top of that DC level.

1. Switch the scope to AC coupled. You should see the trace from "4" above drop down to the baseline graticule marker in the center.
2. Now change the vertical resolution from the 1 or 2 volts you had before, down in stages down to 200 or 20 mV per division. You may have to reset the trigger or set it to "auto". (DO NOT push the "auto everything" or auto setup button, you'll lose your settings! Just set the trigger itself to "auto".)

Now you should be seeing noise or ripple similar to what you had in the video, only a more stable display. You can read the magnitude of the noise/ripple, remembering that the center graticule marker now indicates the DC level that you read in step 3 above, not "zero", so your noise or ripple isn't really AC, it's a fluctuating level of DC.

ETA: In case it isn't clear by now... in general you should keep your scope channels set to "DC coupled" if you want valid voltage readings. Some specialized measurements require the use of AC coupling, most do not. It has really nothing to do with whether you are measuring an AC or a DC signal. The "AC coupled" feature just switches a capacitor in series with the probe input instead of the straight wire "DC coupled" setting. So the capacitor blocks the DC component and passes the fluctuating level of the signal. That's all it does.

TinselKoala

OK, in case the point isn't clear yet.... when you select "AC Coupling" for your scope's input.... you are actually filtering out any DC component of your measured signal. You simply won't see the DC part if you use "AC Coupling". If that's what you want to do, fine. But don't go getting all excited about your "AC Batteries", because your measurements of ambient noise, made with the AC-coupled channel, don't support your claim.

broli

Noticed the keshe foundation website was selling something new. A kit that is able to produce solid CO2 (in 'plasma matter' form) using a specially treated plate and a zinc/nickel? plate.

http://keshefoundation.org/shop/category/view/5.html

I must say the selling price is negligible compared to the claim, I presume to be producing an unlimited amount of this gooy CO2 material (and even energy?). I don't know if the kit comes with any instructions or more information but as it stands there is very little information on production rate, the degradation of the "nano" plate and how exactly the power is produced.

EDIT:

Found the more extensive 2 part video on this kit:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D12PKWEo7iY&index=1&list=UUP1CJKRkg6ImllD6N2qIKHg

And also a quote from someone of the keshe foundation:

QuoteNeo,

Please listen to the 31st workshop (available for download in the banner above for Knowledge Seeker Workshops).  The plates will last a long long time, and create GANS from the start.  The Keshe Foundation is in the process of teaching what we can do with the GANS created, so keeping it safe in bottles will be the best idea.  The salt water can be any salinity, however, I believe the best option is to see what works for you, there is no wrong answer.

The harvesting of the GANS can be done at any point, just use your best judgement on when you want to harvest.  With the prototype plates, I believe that they where harvesting every 24 hours or less.

With the changing of the water, it is not needed.  Just add water as it evaporates.  Again, this isnt an exact science, because creation has never needed measuring cups. 

Good luck with your GANS creation and thank you for helping clean up our planet!!

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