Probality of God

[Gwandau]

Hoptoad,

your insight in the evolutionary history of the flagellary motor is impressive! I bet those biochemists daring to put forward their unorthodox theory must have missed this obvious information that you so easily seem to hand out.


How come then that the critics of this theory hasn't been able to prove the opposite? Quote from article: "After nearly ten years, they have mustered only a vague just-so story about the flagellar motor arising from a simpler subsystem of the motor -a tiny syringe-that is sometimes found in bacteria without the other parts of the flagellar motor present. Unfortunately for advocates of this theory, recent genetic studies show that the syringe arose after the flagellar motor-that if anything the syringe evolved from the motor, not the motor from the syringe."

Cheers,

Gwandau

[Gwandau]

you're perverting the definition of 'proof'.

and read up on FPGA's (field programmable gate array's) and what they can "design"...  god's name is 'chip'... 

First of all, I really don't like the concept of a personal god, it only diminishes the logical magnitude of the concept of an intelligent design and makes the whole discussion into a farce. The Intelligent design being adressed here is not related to any religious context whatsoever.

What's so wrong with the probability of an Intelligent design? It does not in any way violate a scientific outlook on things as long as you keep away from the religious stupor.

FPGA as well as CPLD or any other advanced programmable logic arrays are all reflecting already existing basic parameters in nature doing the same thing in a far more complicated way. The dynamic and reprogrammable DNA software controlling the function and structure of living organisms is such an example.


Don't be so afraid of an intelligent design, wilby, it really does not have anything to do with religion.


Cheers,

Gwandau

[WilbyInebriated]

What's so wrong with the probability of an Intelligent design?

there is nothing to suggest this possibility (not probability).

FPGA as well as CPLD or any other advanced programmable logic arrays are all reflecting already existing basic parameters in nature doing the same thing in a far more complicated way. The dynamic and reprogrammable DNA software controlling the function and structure of living organisms is such an example.

and there is NOTHING "intelligent" about them... by ANY stretch of the word (in the manner that you are applying it).

Don't be so afraid of an intelligent design, wilby, it really does not have anything to do with religion.

i'm not afraid... don't be so asinine and presumptuous.
you have nothing to support such an asinine speculation. speculation, assumption and the inevitable conjecture are NOT supporting evidence(s).  you are anthropomorphizing reality... it's rather arrogant.

i submit that you are the one that is afraid.

regards.

[WilbyInebriated]

How come then that the critics of this theory hasn't been able to prove the opposite

are you serious?  i'd be laughing right now if what you wrote wasn't so STUPID!

because SCIENCE doesn't PROVE things...

[hoptoad]

snip.... I bet those biochemists daring to put forward their unorthodox theory must have missed this obvious information
snip....

Here's a tiny fraction of available information on flagellar systems.

http://www.millerandlevine.com/km/evol/design2/article.html
http://health.adelaide.edu.au/Pharm/Musgrave/essays/flagella.htm
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3160247/

Cheers