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Probality of God

Started by Newton II, September 14, 2012, 01:33:36 AM

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eatenbyagrue

Quote from: gravityblock on November 13, 2012, 05:53:42 AM
The water isn't in zero gravity during the experiment.  The electromagnetic bonding between the water molecules at the surface of the earth isn't strong enough to hold the water together, so why would it be strong enough to hold the water together at 90-95% of gravity during the experiment, especially when the tablet is introduced?  You also didn't provide a plausible explanation in why there are no tides in the Great Lakes, etc, when the gravitational-tidal theory predicts there should be.  The repulsive force of light easily explains this.  The pressure of light applied per square mile over the Great Lakes isn't enough to cause a compression at one point to raise it up at another.  I never said the sun caused less of a tide than the moon.  The reflected light from the moon causes a compression at one point, and the direct light from the sun a compression at another.  Thus, it is that the tides are highest at the full moon, these two pressures then being conjoined.

Gravock


Great Lakes do have tides exactly according to the gravity tidal theory, but the tides are only a few inches, and are lost among other factors, such as weather.


Gravity is stronger than the electromagentic attaction of the molecules at earth's surface, hence the effect only observed in zero gravity.


According to your light-attraction theory, the Sun should exhibit greater tidal force than the moon, as it is much brighter.  Yet it does not.  I know you did not assert this - it is a piece of evidence that contradicts your theory.

eatenbyagrue

Gravock:  after doing some reading, it appears you are trying to hang on to the Le Sage theory of gravitation:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LeSage_gravity


It appears to have been thoroughly discredited.  One thing it does explain is why the universe is expanding at an accelerating rate, without the need for dark energy.  But there is just no other evidence for it.

Tommy

If god is everything then it is you also. And who created the word god ? humans.
If god is love, then remove all fear (put there bye human leaders wanting to control you)from holy books, then read it again.


Tommy








gravityblock

Quote from: eatenbyagrue on November 13, 2012, 08:55:34 AM

Great Lakes do have tides exactly according to the gravity tidal theory, but the tides are only a few inches, and are lost among other factors, such as weather.


Gravity is stronger than the electromagentic attaction of the molecules at earth's surface, hence the effect only observed in zero gravity.


According to your light-attraction theory, the Sun should exhibit greater tidal force than the moon, as it is much brighter.  Yet it does not.  I know you did not assert this - it is a piece of evidence that contradicts your theory.

For the third time, the effect isn't being observed in zero gravity.  The effect is being observed in free-fall (weightlessness) at nearly the same strength of gravity at the surface of earth.  You can do the same experiment in an airplane during free-fall experiments that is much closer to the surface of the earth and obtain the same results.  The water being held together has nothing to do with earth's gravity or with the electromagnetic attraction of the molecules.  Both the strength of gravity and the strength of the electromagnetic attraction of the molecules are nearly the same at both the earth's surface and on the space shuttle in free-fall (or in an airplane following a parabolic path while experiencing free-fall).  Then you have the tablet, which easily breaks the strength of electromagnetic attraction of the molecules which you refer to, both at the surface and in free-fall above the earth. 

If you apply an even pressure over the entire body of water, then the water can't be compressed at one point and raised up at another point to create a wave.  This happens when the sun is more directly over the body of the water.  However, when the sun is at more of an angle to the earth and the body of water, then the pressure of light isn't evenly distributed over the entire body of water, then the water can be compressed at one point and raised up at another to create a wave.  This is the cause for retardation of the tides.  As you can see, your logic in saying the sun should exhibit greater tidal force than the moon based on being much brighter is flawed, and it's not a piece of evidence that contradicts the theory as you wrongly assert.

Gravock
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting a different result.

God will confuse the wise with the simplest things of this world.  He will catch the wise in their own craftiness.

gravityblock

Quote from: eatenbyagrue on November 13, 2012, 09:02:08 AM
Gravock:  after doing some reading, it appears you are trying to hang on to the Le Sage theory of gravitation:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LeSage_gravity


It appears to have been thoroughly discredited.  One thing it does explain is why the universe is expanding at an accelerating rate, without the need for dark energy.  But there is just no other evidence for it.

I have already said I don't subscribe to the pico-graviton theory, which is nearly the same as LeSage gravity.  Both are based on tiny unseen hypothetical particles.  However, the pico-graviton experiments, as does the water sphere experiment, does show gravity isn't a pulling force of attraction between masses.  This also proves the gravitational-tidal theory wrong, since there is no pulling force of the moon.  Thus, there is a centripetal pressure in the universe, and this is seen in the flight of the nebulae, in the expansion of the universe (without the need for dark energy as you correctly stated), in the pico-graviton experiment, and in the water sphere experiment.

Gravock
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting a different result.

God will confuse the wise with the simplest things of this world.  He will catch the wise in their own craftiness.