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Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY

Started by 27Bubba, September 18, 2012, 02:17:22 PM

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itsu


Nick,

you have to lower the signal on the scope by increasing the distance between the probe tip and the kacher coil / antenna, or decrease the
V/Div. setting to have a full signal visible on your scope.
Then you need to decrease the time base (sec/div knob) so you have say 4 peaks on your screen (now about 35   :o ) and give me the sec/div number (eg 20us)

Then i (and you) would be able to calculate the frequency.

Eyeballing you kacher, i would estimate it would resonate around 1500Khz without antenna/connection coils, and around 1300Khz with them.


Regards Itsu

NickZ

   Itsu:
   Ok, so I've moved the probe further back this time, to view the entire wave size, in the image below.
The Kacher needs to be running in the Mhz range, around 1.5 to 2 Mhz or so, and not Khz range?
   So, this Kacher needs to be tuned then, by removing some turns on the secondary Kacher coil? So it will be running at 100x higher frequency, than my 24khz Mazilli crt. Right?
  Here's the scope shot (below) showing the full Kacher screen image. There does seam to be a higher gain noticed on the scope when the Kacher is turned on, over when it is off, and only the Mazilli running by itself. But, there is not much improvement (lumin levels) noticed at the bulbs, yet.
 



TinselKoala

Nick, that last scopeshot looks to me like it is indicating about 759 kHz.

If your scope is set to 10 us/division horizontally, that means you have 80 microseconds (0.000080 second)  showing in the middle 8 divisions of the screen. Counting peaks in those 8 divisions, I see about 60.7 full cycles.

So, the math is

60.7 cycles / 0.000080 second = 758750 cycles per second = 759 kHz, roughly. This is about 32 times the Mazilli frequency.

We could do a check if you used a somewhat faster timebase (fewer peaks) just to make sure this image isn't overlapping peaks and giving me a false count.

itsu

Quote from: NickZ on September 16, 2015, 12:59:40 PM
   Itsu:
   Ok, so I've moved the probe further back this time, to view the entire wave size, in the image below.
The Kacher needs to be running in the Mhz range, around 1.5 to 2 Mhz or so, and not Khz range?
   So, this Kacher needs to be tuned then, by removing some turns on the secondary Kacher coil? So it will be running at 100x higher frequency, than my 24khz Mazilli crt. Right?
  Here's the scope shot (below) showing the full Kacher screen image. There does seam to be a higher gain noticed on the scope when the Kacher is turned on, over when it is off, and only the Mazilli running by itself. But, there is not much improvement (lumin levels) noticed at the bulbs, yet.


I agree with Tinsel,  it  pans out to be around 769KHz from what i calculate, but to check on that we need less peaks and lower amplitude, see the below screenshot of my kacher.

It should run in the 1.5MHz  (is 1500KHz) range as i understand.
If it needs to be 100x higher then the mazilla frequency is the big question, perhaps someone else can answer that.

Were you able to compensate the probe for a good square wave signal?
And yes, less turns, the higher the frequency.

Regards Itsu

Dog-One

Quote from: NickZ on September 16, 2015, 12:59:40 PM
The Kacher needs to be running in the Mhz range, around 1.5 to 2 Mhz or so, and not Khz range?
   So, this Kacher needs to be tuned then, by removing some turns on the secondary Kacher coil? So it will be running at 100x higher frequency, than my 24khz Mazilli crt. Right?

This is where things get tricky (at least for me).  You need to tune both the primary and the secondary of your Kacher to get into the frequency range you are after.  Best I can explain things is to reduce interwinding capacitance on both sides.  It is doable but is much more of an art than it is a science.  You may even find yourself needing to use smaller traces and thinner wire on your driver too.  Spacing between turns is the most obvious first step and when that no longer helps, reducing the number of turns comes next.

If you get this figured and working, please share what you ended up doing.  This will help a lot of people I'm sure.