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Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY

Started by 27Bubba, September 18, 2012, 02:17:22 PM

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John.K1

Hi Bro. Thank you. Very appreciated.

John.K1

Quote from: Hoppy on October 05, 2015, 10:38:29 AM
Theory and practice don't always go hand-in-hand, so its wise to try both methods. Tomtech is confirming here what John.K1 has posted. Given that none of us have so far achieved a self-running device or are one hundred percent sure about the real principle of operation, we only have Ruslan's word for it and as he is saying that he has gone over to a uni-directional wind for better performance, then I would favour first proceeding in that direction.

Tomtech raises a good point above: Lay down 24wdg issues.? 12wdg. ? This latter two layers determine the inductance of the coil and thus change to the high level of high-frequency resonance.

Hi Hoppy, But there is still the fact, that the device worked with either coil configuration. So it still bring the question how important that coil is. Wrongly wounded brings some instability, losses , but otherwise still works fine. So- if the energy amplification doesn't come from the sense of the winding, where it comes from?? ;D   My point of view is like to have a good capacitor and bad capacitor , but the charging source still remain.  What is that charging source??

itsu

Quote from: TinselKoala on October 04, 2015, 06:03:58 PM
I might still have some time left, but I've run completely out of money. I'm limited to using parts and equipment I already have on hand, for the most part. Sometimes people send me stuff to play with (like the generous donation of the DSO from people mostly here on this forum, thanks again!) but I don't even have enough of the right kind of wire to wind these coils. I've been thinking about making a coil version using #27 magnet wire, of which I still have a good amount, just to see if I can get it to ring (resonate) using any of the methods I know about. But I'd like to see some agreement as to the winding directions of the various layers before I start.

For those of you with DSOs, you should be able to try another method, and grab the result with the Single-Shot sweep mode of your scopes. Connect your scope probe across the coil, with the tip at the "top" or HV end and the ground probe at the other end. Arm the scope's Single-shot mode. Use a battery, like a 9V battery, and a couple of wires to "strike" the coil with a brief pulse. You should be able to observe the ringing after the trailing edge of the battery pulse. The ring frequency is what you are looking for. Here's an example shot from my scope showing such an experiment, with a ringdown frequency of 342.5 kHz.


Nice one Tinsel,

i tried that method on my Grenade coil (using a damaged/old 12V SLA with 8V in it) and the result can be seen in the below screenshot.
Be aware of the high peaks this method will induce (563V pp)!!

It rings at a frequency of 1.22Mhz, which is very close to the measurement i made when i build it, see here:
http://overunity.com/12736/kapanadze-cousin-dally-free-energy/msg421835/#msg421835 )

In that post i show a screenshot of the sweeping i did (1.290Mhz resonance peak) a video of this new Grenade and the following info:

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I made a new Grenade coil according to the now known specifications:

2.5mm² stranded copper wire OD = 3mm, total length is 38.5m with 2x 0.5m connection leads (coil length 37.5m).
Layer 1 and 2 are  19cm long and are resp. 56 and 55 turns CCW
Layer 3 and 4 are 9.5cm long and are resp. 26 and 25 turns CW
Layer 5 and 6 are 4.5cm long and are both 12 turns CW

Tube OD is 5cm

Inductance measured is 168uH @ 1KHz and 166uH @ 100KHz

Main (and almost only) resonance frequency peak is at 1.290 MHz, see screenshot of the frequency scan (1KHz -> 10MHz)

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In the light of the latest info from T1000, i will rewind the layers 5 and 6 (now the same as layer 3 and 4) and put them the opposite way.
so i will have a Grenade which follow the CCW, CW, CCW and then redo the resonance tests.


Regards Itsu

itsu

Quote from: Dog-One on October 04, 2015, 07:13:48 PM
Excellent work and video demonstration Itsu.  I only wish you were the one to develop this device originally instead of Ruslan.  If that were the case we would all have this thing replicated and probably highly optimized by now.


Something I mentioned quite a while back on this thread.  I purchased a pair of 40Hz to 200kHz inductive pickup transformers to use specifically for monitoring the current in the induction heater coil.  These devices work extremely well and would interface with the LM339 just fine without any fear of overvolting the comparator chip.


On the behavior of your bread-boarded circuit...   This particular circuit does not burst the Tesla coil.  It only outputs a single impulse at the proper position within the lower frequency signal.  It would seem to me, this is a relatively decent starting point.  However, I suspect with a burst output of controlled width having the exact frequency resonant to the Tesla coil, superior performance could be achieved.  Someone mentioned Ruslan had improved his circuit to do this.  I have also done it using a micro-controller implementation.  After getting my grenade coil re-wound for the fourth time, I will make an attempt to demonstrate this as a comparison.

Dog-One and Lost_bro,

thanks for your comments, the present diagram i am replicating does not "pulse" the Kacher, it is like Lost_bro says, a single shot each cycle made by the PLL frequency (15Khz).
I can vary the width of that pulse (the mark) with pots R5 and R9 so it will contain a specific number of Kacher frequency cycles.
If pulsing has any advantages i don't know.

Regards Itsu

Hoppy


An excellent, well presented video Itsu.

You mention in an earlier post that with the component value as per diagram, the frequency range on the pot appears rather low at between 3.3KHz and 8.5KHz. Its interesting that taking your grenade frequency at 1.22Mhz and applying the procedure to determine the low frequency for the PWM at a 60th division - 1.22MHz / 4 = 305KHz / 60 = 5.08KHz - which falls nicely in the middle of that frequency range.

Regards
Hoppy