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[T-1000]

Well, the separate 12V for the MOSFET drivers ONLY (so not "the electronics") is caused by some oscillations i had when i did had 2x 12V regulators, one for each driver.
These oscillations are solved now, so i could go back to 2x 12V regulators, one for each driver.

I don't want to connect the PS and Batt together without diodes inbetween, so you mean measure voltages without diodes and without being looped,  right?

Itsu

The 24V->12V voltage regulators are meant to be in changing voltage environment so should not cause any problems.
For the voltage measurements I would like to see the voltage before diodes on the 24V battery stack + 220V->24V PS then after diodes what voltage goes to the yoke.

[Dog-One]

No shortage of advice coming from all parts of the world.   

again, i kind of understand what you are saying, ...

but this "the battery resumes powering the system" makes no sense to me as the battery is always connected to the system, so why would it "stop powering the system" in the first place?

For a brief moment when the internal caps in the power supply are charged and all the internal voltage thresholds are met, the power supply likely does provide the driving power to your system.  Why it does this is because when your battery is under load, it probably is not sitting at 24 volts--more like 22.5 volts or something close.  When the power supply activates, it has the full regulated 24 volts and since this 24 volts exceeds the 22.5 volts of the battery, it takes over.  It can't do it very long though because the internal caps in the power supply deplete rapidly and the power supply shuts down--simply not enough input current to keep the voltage levels above threshold.

I will try to do that load test with 2x 12V bulbs in series, but i have to get some.

A 24 volt DC motor will suffice too.


An easy test of the power supply so you all can see its behavior is to connect a load to your power supply with the power supply plugged into mains.  Normal wiring.  The power supply will run properly and do what it is designed to do.

Now, insert a 40 watt light bulb in series with the input power and mains; disconnect the load.  The power supply will output its regulated 24 volts and the light bulb will be off.  Next, connect your load.  You will see the power supply cycle on and off and the light bulb illuminate with this cycling.  What's happening is the load is depleting the internal caps faster than they can be recharged.  Once the caps become depleted, the light bulb illuminates because the current draw becomes too high--the actual input voltage to the power supply drops below threshold.  Remove the load from the power supply and the light bulb extinguishes; power supply begins to output full 24 volt regulated output.

This is normal behavior of these power supplies--triggering of the under-voltage protection and shutdown circuitry.  I recommend everyone try some tests with your power supply so you can see and know what to expect from them.

[magpwr]

I think the cycling is due to the lack of sufficient amperage for the power supply to drive much of anything.  So once it's output voltage comes up, it immediately tries to take the load, dies and the battery resumes powering the system.  If you connected the power supply output to a pair of 12 volt bulbs connected in series, I'm pretty sure you would see the same thing.


Now that is interesting.  I would not have guessed there would be so much high frequency radiation going on.  It appears pretty strong too.  Very surprising.

hi itsu and Void,

I had the similar effect as itsu months back but i think i may have mentioned it in the forum.

But i did remember mentioning "with or without bulb connected" the power drawn from battery remains at "54watt" using 12volts battery.220volts bulb dimly lit.

I also did mention i was also running at 2 x the resonance.The resonance was at 14.4xkhz for my case using PWM to find out.Then apply at 2x resonance running PWM generator at 28.8x khz which similar effect was achieved as URFA.But i was not using "typical tesla coil".I did use Oleg single nanosecond pulse ~78 to 80 nanosecond wide base on my SIC Mosfet to drive the Tesla Transponder at <10watt including the high voltage around 200volts(Can't recall).

When i mention effect similar to URFA i meant without tesla transponder powered on the bulb do not light dimly.

Without looping back the output of wide input voltage capable adapter works fine produce 12volts out.But the minute i try to connect it to battery(loop back) mains bulb keeps blinking at around 1 to 2hz.

Looks like there is something going on.

But this just gives me an idea after itsu was having similar issue is to try not to use the in built full bridge rectifier.In other words i may use a single diode(either way) to connect directly A/C input.

Why because bemf don't work both ways.Only possible solution i can plan to apply is single high voltage diode 3A eg:UF5408 to 220volts A/C in to whatever voltage output 12 or 24volts.

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Void recall that Rubin yoke which you were experimenting on.
I recall that someone mentioned the experiment in Lithuania where input to yoke from signal generator was "impedance mismatched".

It immediately gave me hint that the virtual experiment related to Longitudinal wave Experiment  which i was working on (Eric Dollard)

I had applied an inductor and capacitor in parallel at both output of the H-bridge driver.Only then the circuit was able to resonate at a higher frequency on it's own 25.287khz.But the input was 4.2khz.

I firmly believe that if you apply the same technique for the Russian yoke core hence "it will resonate on it's own" provided if you get the frequency right.

http://overunity.com/14865/longitudinal-wave-experiment-to-demonstrate-overunity/msg414503/#msg414503

[Void]

Hi Magpwr. OK on that. Yes, using a parallel LC resonance at some particular resonance frequency may help.
I recently did a lot of reviewing of claimed self running Kapanadze related setups and of Akula's various
videos as well, and I think that if these configurations really produce OU, then the key components
for getting the effect are very basic, and I think we are pretty much there. There may be one or
two smaller details we are missing yet, but I have some ideas about that and I have some tests planned
to see if can find that last bit of missing detail. On the other hand, if some special type of ferrite or other
material is needed or something related to that, then it could really be hit and miss trying to get the combination right.

P.S. Dog-One, your explanation of the power supply pulsing seems to make sense to me.
If adding a large electrolytic cap across the output of the power supply changes the pulsing
rate somewhat, then this is probably the right explanation, and is therefore probably not too much
of a concern at this point.

[Void]

Hi Void,
yes that solid 14.3Mhz signal when not in resonance was surprising to me to, i will try to zoom in on that situation trying to see where it comes from.
Itsu

Hi Itsu, guys. 
We may possibly be on to something interesting here. I don't want to jump to any conclusions at all, but
I am also getting some interesting results using my PWM driver, even at very low coil pulse voltages.
The peak I am seeing on my spectrum analyzer is around 1 MHz at its highest point, and this peak only
appears at certain PWM drive frequencies. I was getting good results at around a PWM drive frequency of 20 kHz,
but this peak also seems to appear at sub-harmonics of this frequency such as 5, 10 and 15 kHz when driving with
a higher coil pulse voltage. I would need to do more testing to confirm this about the sub-harmonics however.
At various other PWM frequencies I tried (quick test so far) this peak does not appear at all.

The peak does not shift in frequency when I place my hand right over the winding on the ferrite yoke half.
but it does change in amplitude a bit, and some of the surrounding frequencies change in amplitude a bit as well.
At this point, I can't say for sure that the peak I am seeing is not due to resonance in the winding on the yoke half,
but the fact that it doesn't shift in frequency when I grab the winding with my hand might be an indicator that this
peak is not due to just a coil resonance. 

Previously when I was testing my yoke core for any frequency band peaks using the spectrum analyzer
feature on my scope, I was only driving with my signal generator which is only quite low power output.
I am now testing using my PWM driver, but I get a very interesting peak at around 1 MHz even at
very low coil pulse voltage of about 1V to 2V. At 1 V coil pulse voltage I already see a very prominent peak
at around 1 MHz, and the magnitude of this peak begins to increase quite fast with only small increases in coil
pulse voltage such as 1.5 V and 2 V.

My tests results shown here are just from some quick tests, and I need to test this a lot more carefully
before I can even start attempting to draw any conclusions, but these results are interesting at any rate.
Also, the spectrum analysis feature on my scope is pretty basic, and I am not so sure at all how trustworthy the
spectrum analysis feature is on my scope. For now, take these results shown here as very possibly suspect until
I do a lot more testing and analysis.

My test setup is just pulsing a coil (using my PWM driver cct) wrapped around one half of the same TV yoke core
which I was testing with previously, and monitoring the resulting frequency spectrum using my scope's FFT feature,
by connecting the scope probe lead to a piece of aluminum foil wrapped around the yoke core half.

See the file names of the attached scope shots for an explanation of what each scope shot represents.
Even at only 1 V coil pulse voltage the peak at around 1 MHz already appears quite clearly.
I still need to do a lot more testing to try to determine if the spectrum analyzer feature on my scope
is giving me at all meaningful results or not, and to try other tests as well to see what might be causing these
results if the spectrum analyzer is not just displaying misleading results.

Yellow is the time domain trace, and green is the frequency domain trace.