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Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY

Started by 27Bubba, September 18, 2012, 02:17:22 PM

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verpies

Quote from: NickZ on December 08, 2013, 11:38:31 PM
Although your comments as to our members opinions being ludicrous is a bit over-rated, if not offensive.
I never stated that the opinions of the members of this forum are ludicrous.
I stated that:
Quote from: verpies on December 08, 2013, 07:49:35 PM
It is ludicrous that its members do not use reliable and accurate power & energy measurements ...
After all, an OU forum is by definition about power and energy !

Frankly, I am surprised by the amount of resistance I am getting to the proposition of accurate measurement of the key magnitudes that are the very subject matter of this entire forum.

verpies

Quote from: TinselKoala on December 09, 2013, 01:47:02 AM
In English, you may find more references to it as VRSWR: Voltage Rise from Standing Wave Resonance.
I thought that a.king was referring to the plain "resonant rise" which is a property of lumped circuits, not the standing wave phenomenon in a waveguide (such as a long helix), because his comment was in reference to blowing transistors in the Mazzilli circuit that is being experimented on this forum. 

Because these Mazzilli circuits use wavelengths that are much longer than the circumference of the cores that they are using, then lumped circuit analysis should apply.

a.king21


Verpies:  From my perspective I have always ignored builds with "hurrah" bulb measurements.
I have ignored builds with meter measurements.
The only person I take note of is Tesla.
I sometimes post info I think is relevant due to inside knowledge even though the info may be suspect due to meter errors -
Such an example would be Melnichenko who's measuring data is suspect, but he was cited by Kapanadze as
being close.


Anyway, good luck with your power measuring device.
I am convinced that one builder has the Kapanadze-Tesla secret and he is Tito L Oracion who posts mainly on the energy amplification thread.

NickZ

  Verpies:
  Thank you for your clarifications.
   
quote from Verpies:
"The open circuit battery voltage is another faulty method of estimating the energy content of a battery. Especially a lead-acid battery."
                                                                end quote
  I understand the above, but, can you explain why an immediate AMP reading of a 12v lead acid battery used in these circuits (once disconnect from the circuit), would not sufficient proof of the drain, or lack of it, on the battery's charge?

  Your power metering idea, seams to have merit. Possibly one of the members here will follow through on it, and can therefore show us all how well it works.
  I am still working on getting my circuit to show some promising results, which quite obviously is no where close to being near anything worth mentioning. 
   My concern is that we are dealing with a different type of energy, possibly magnetic in nature, gravitational, or something even more illusive, or unmeasurable. Such as the Aether which you don't believe in, because it can't be proven, YET.

verpies

Quote from: NickZ on December 09, 2013, 10:48:55 AM
I understand the above, but, can you explain why an immediate AMP reading of a 12v lead acid battery used in these circuits (once disconnect from the circuit), would not sufficient proof of the drain, or lack of it, on the battery's charge?
Because a 12V lead-acid battery consists of several cells, and each has a different discharge profile which is very non-linear.  The temperature of the electrolyte&plates, porosity/surface area, sulfation and electrolyte stratification influence them strongly.
If you could measure each cell individually, then you could make a rough estimate of the State of Charge if and only if the electrolyte&plate temperature is kept constant.  Note, that the electric current flowing through the battery will raise its temperature even if the ambient does not.  This is one of the reasons why a lead-acid battery should sit idly for several hours before cell measurements equalize.

Quote from: NickZ on December 09, 2013, 10:48:55 AM
My concern is that we are dealing with a different type of energy, possibly magnetic in nature, gravitational, or something even more illusive
That's a valid concern. Undiscovered forms of energy can exist. But if they do we should learn how to differentiate them from conventional electric current in conductors and electrostatics.

Quote from: NickZ on December 09, 2013, 10:48:55 AM
or unmeasurable. Such as the Aether which you don't believe in, because it can't be proven, YET.
Unmeasurable energy is an energy that cannot make any difference.  It might not be measurable with a multimeter or calorimeter or radiation meter, but it must be measurable in some manner or it might as well not exist at all.  The same goes for virtual particles.
...and Aether as a mysterious substance with contradictory properties that fills space which acts as a container of objects, is just a mental crutch.