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Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY

Started by 27Bubba, September 18, 2012, 02:17:22 PM

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Khwartz

Quote from: d3x0r on December 13, 2013, 02:12:00 AM
Still think it would be nice if it had a sliding window average that was the integral of power.  Just because I can get a GW pulse in nano seconds... doesn't mean I'm not just using watts over longer time periods
You can be true but it won't be me to tell anything while I don't know, all ectrician I am, what is "a sliding window average that was the integral of power", could you explain to me more ? Please d3x0r

Grumage

Dear Khwartz and all.

With regards to Verpies idea and circuit, I mentioned this to my friend (RM Cybernetics) who said it would be something he would look into in the new year.

What is needed is a concerted "think" to create a versatile and hopefully cheap device that would clear up any of the grey areas with regards to OU devices.

So what do we want of it ??  Just a box that can be connected to a DVM ? Built in LCD / LED display ? Accuarcy ? probably the most important element !!  :) Have a think all, we have a few weeks !!

Cheers Grum.

d3x0r

Quote from: Khwartz on December 13, 2013, 01:40:23 PM
You can be true but it won't be me to tell anything while I don't know, all ectrician I am, what is "a sliding window average that was the integral of power", could you explain to me more ? Please d3x0r
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moving_average


In statistics, a moving average (rolling average or running average) is a calculation to analyze data points by creating a series of averages of different subsets of the full data set. It is also called a moving mean (MM)[1] or rolling mean and is a type of finite impulse response filter. Variations include: simple, and cumulative, orweighted forms (described below).


It's also used in network algorithms to determine QOS (quality of service)... you can get lots of bursts of speed, but the general average over time is smoother.  Not a complete average (which is what RMS is)... but a sliding window... a window is a view of a subset of data point.

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T-1000

Quote from: Hoppy on December 13, 2013, 04:03:24 AM
??? What power amplification? Please explain given that Geo gives inadequate measurements to confirm this.

Two things:
1) Is small battery able to power up 1kW load? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRBI39us0VI
2) If yes, for how long?

I would be very keen to see proper measurements of this in replicated working circuit as no conventional power meter will measure BEMF and pulsed circuit properly ... ;)

Khwartz

Quote from: d3x0r on December 13, 2013, 03:40:58 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moving_average


In statistics, a moving average (rolling average or running average) is a calculation to analyze data points by creating a series of averages of different subsets of the full data set. It is also called a moving mean (MM)[1] or rolling mean and is a type of finite impulse response filter. Variations include: simple, and cumulative, orweighted forms (described below).


It's also used in network algorithms to determine QOS (quality of service)... you can get lots of bursts of speed, but the general average over time is smoother.  Not a complete average (which is what RMS is)... but a sliding window... a window is a view of a subset of data point.

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:) thanks for the reference and your clear explainations, d3x0r.

I knew about "moving average" I've used a few indeed in stats but didn't make the relationship with the electrical data (could be as used to, too late to still google it ;) ).

Any way, very nice to see interest to get Verpies' Wattbox as a versatil and useful tool for anybody to win time and efforts and check if we go or not in the right direction in the experiments :)

Thanks to be here and to participate to the quest as you do.

Cheers.