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Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY

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Void

Quote from: d3x0r on November 24, 2014, 05:25:59 PM
nice ; that's charging in milliwatts... was looking for a calculatin for T, V and C to get A or W ... best I did was setup falstad with a fixed powr supply a Capacitor and a resistor until I could find the current through the resistor... it's a RC time constant *4 or something.... or T/4

Hi d3x0r. Yes, only in the range of 300mW to 400mW delivered to the capacitor, it would appear.
This is with only a kacher driver and grenade, and no 'inductor' winding, as in Ruslan's recent video.

For a basic RC circuit, the time constant Tau is R x C. Determining R when using an AC source is not so simple
however because the AC source can have a significant equivalent internal resistance (impedance) which must be
taken into account. A regulated DC power supply usually typically has a low internal resistance, so a cap charges
almost instantly when placed across a DC source with high current capacity, with no external resistor in series. However when a cap is placed
across the grenade coil output through rectifier diodes, the cap charges relatively slowly. This indicates the equivalent internal resistance of the
grenade coil (our AC supply) (plus whatever small equivalent resistance of the diodes) is relatively high. It can only supply a relatively small amount of current into
the capacitor, so it takes about a second or so to charge fully from a discharged state. 

T = Tau = the circuit time constant in seconds = R x C  (R in ohms, and C in Farads)
Current falls to one half after 3 x Tau seconds.
Capacitor is close to being fully charged after about 5 x Tau seconds.

For my scope shot I posted above, the equivalent R of the grenade coil + diode losses
is roughly about 200,000 ohms, if I didn't make a calculation error.  :)
5 x Tau = approx 1 second = 5 x (200,000 ohms x .000001 Farads)
(The 1uF capacitor charges to almost its full voltage after about roughly 1 second or so, so that is roughly 5 x Tau). 
Charge current falls to one half at 3 x Tau = 3 x (200,000 ohms x .000001 Farads) = 0.6 seconds.
I could have made a mistake above, but that is based on what I recall, which is somewhat rusty. ;)
All the best...

Jeg

Quote from: T-1000 on November 24, 2014, 03:07:21 PM
Hi,

You can try with 2kV+ spikes to charge 2kV rated capacitor from 0V up to 500V charge then from 500V to 1KV then measure charging time for each half. The high voltage spikes are usually what you do get from Tesla coil.
Then you will see something interesting going on there and also reasons why Ruslan used 2kV rated capacitors... :)

Cheers!

In the graph that you posted few days ago about capacitor voltage and charging times, it is obvious that capacitors are charging rapidly at the first half period of the total charging time as Void said. Yes it needs more current, but this current comes from ground. What we have to do is to raise voltage as much as it needs to reach the time goal. For example if our load i.e 200W needs 12V to operate, perhaps it would be needed to raise voltage over some thousand volts so to have a decent charging time. At least this is what Tesla proposed at this famous interview about HF alternating currents. Raise the voltage, and use of electrostatic devices i.e capacitors! The same conclusion i had with Don Smith experiments. Raise pressure as much as it needs to reach the needed charging times. Current is expensive but voltage is cheap. :)

d3x0r

managed to find a way to drive a ferrite coil with 12v battery at 1-2A can push 3-4 but that's hard to tune...


but I think most of the power is eaten by the joule theif... the transistor gets hot pretty quick at 2A... 2n3055


also having coils in series is lower output than in parallel or only using one side..


12V input still only gets 35V output
well that's what the load is tuned to... it actually is +/- 150V/300 without a load...  but that across an incandescent is 0 voltage and no light...
I did add a resonant capacitor to bring down the frequency a little...
started at very low voltage and worked my way up...
actually have nice bright output now... and 500uF charges to 5V in ... I dunno pretty quick... but if I rebalance the load to get more like a 12V differential, that takes a second to charge... so it's only mW available there still...


If I have the load attached or not, there's no difference on the input current... which is why I think most of it is burned in the oscillator.


putting a diode inline kills it... probably have to return for that sort of condition...
it's now running about 500Khz (non-bifilar... coil filaments are in parallel) ... which reminds me that maybe I can take the output of this into a coil around the other kapagen coil with a tiny capacitance should be able to bring down the frequency to match....


actually measured at 150Khz ... 2.2nF resonant cap ... 511.72uH which is basically what it is... being both conductors in parallel...
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output side does not have to be connected to ground...
ground connections after isolation don't seem to matter.


swapped for single filar magnet wire wound one... added a secondary for JT; swapped coil, output remains the same...
input is 2A though and I don't see anywhere that 2A is represented at the output... I dunno... it's only one dimensional though... maybe still need high voltage disturbance...


Hoppy

Quote from: d3x0r on November 25, 2014, 06:20:38 AM
managed to find a way to drive a ferrite coil with 12v battery at 1-2A can push 3-4 but that's hard to tune...



Do you intend to build a full sized Grenade coil for a replication attempt on the Ruslan self-running device?

d3x0r

Quote from: Hoppy on November 25, 2014, 07:28:54 AM
Do you intend to build a full sized Grenade coil for a replication attempt on the Ruslan self-running device?
Already had.... but my kacher was poor; and my tl494 is iffy... really need to build proper drivers... in the meantime been testing various permutations and effects