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Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY

Started by 27Bubba, September 18, 2012, 02:17:22 PM

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Void

I think you guys are reaching more than just a little to say that it is definitely a wire laying near the concrete block in the garden. :) Sure it does kind of look like a wire for a few frames, but it may well just be a few pieces of dead plant stalk laying here and there in the dirt that looks something like one continuous wire for a few frames. I think it is more likely just plant stalks, as Akula would probably have covered up the wire with dirt or weeds if it were a wire powering the demo board. Akula lifts all four corners of the demo board up from the table anyway, so that would seem to rule out a hidden power wire running up a table leg. It seems more likely that it would be a hidden battery and inverter circuit powering the lights if this is a fake, or that black ground wire (looks like a multi-wire cable) going to the well may have one or more of its wires going to hidden power wires that run up the back of the vertical well pipe. That would be another possible hidden power source. There is no doubt that any of these sort of demo videos could potentially be faked. After all, stage magicians make a living fooling people in all sorts of clever ways. This doesn't mean the videos are necessarily faked however.  :)






TinselKoala

Isn't it interesting, though, that we can think of so many different ways that it might have been faked, but nobody can reproduce it without faking?

It's not necessary for a visible wire to connect to or run up the table leg. There could be a wire concealed inside the table leg, with a simple button-contact arrangement at the bottom of the leg, which then makes contact with a similar button on the ground, and this latter button could easily be wellconcealed. The same contact arrangement can be used to get power from the tabletop to the circuit, and there could easily be enough storage within the apparatus to keep the lights lit during a brief lift-up off the table.

Can you see where my contacts are in this video? I made no special effort to conceal them, and they are indeed visible at one point. I did this deliberately, to see if anyone would notice them, but I could easily have concealed them and shot the video so that they were impossible to detect.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=saa39OCuBy0

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Hoppy

Quote from: Void on May 07, 2013, 01:26:53 PM
I think you guys are reaching more than just a little to say that it is definitely a wire laying near the concrete block in the garden. :) Sure it does kind of look like a wire for a few frames, but it may well just be a few pieces of dead plant stalk laying here and there in the dirt that looks something like one continuous wire for a few frames. I think it is more likely just plant stalks, as Akula would probably have covered up the wire with dirt or weeds if it were a wire powering the demo board. Akula lifts all four corners of the demo board up from the table anyway, so that would seem to rule out a hidden power wire running up a table leg. It seems more likely that it would be a hidden battery and inverter circuit powering the lights if this is a fake, or that black ground wire (looks like a multi-wire cable) going to the well may have one or more of its wires going to hidden power wires that run up the back of the vertical well pipe. That would be another possible hidden power source. There is no doubt that any of these sort of demo videos could potentially be faked. After all, stage magicians make a living fooling people in all sorts of clever ways. This doesn't mean the videos are necessarily faked however.  :)

To recap then, with the various interesting possibilities:
1) The real McCoy (with MIB on their way!).
2) Faked with a multi-core black cable with hidden connections to the white cable going to the house.
3) Faked using a partially hidden 'X' wire run almost out of sight along the earth in the garden close to the concrete slab.
4) Faked using a one-wire transmission system.

I like Void's suggestion in 2) above as this would be a reasonably simple fake and a little similar to how the TK Green Box device was faked IMO (with the bearded guy acting as the cable jointing post  :) ). The white wire could have been used in the original MK1 version where the chair was not lifted off the ground as there was some sign of a white cable coming through the crack close to the back RHS chair leg. It is strange that a small pile of weeds were left on the concrete slab (with a big damp patch suggesting there might have been a bigger pile at some stage before the video was shot) and that the white wire along the garden was visible and covered in part by weeds but this could have been a deliberate part of the illusion to divert attention to the actual means of faking. It is equally strange that the white wire running across the concrete slab to the house and through the window was the permanent house earthing arrangement as we have been informed.

Void

Tinsel, I am not really following you. I have been agreeing all along that these sort of videos can potentially be faked in various ways. I am just saying that this of course doesn't necessarily mean that all these videos are fakes. Sure the probability is pretty high that free energy videos in general are fakes, or the person making the video is making major errors, but to say that no one has been able to replicate something similar to the kapanadze demos makes the assumption that other replication videos like the Akula videos or the SR193 and a few other videos are all definitely fakes. It seems at least possible to me that some of these other replication videos may not be fakes unless definitely proven otherwise. :)

At any rate, I am not much interested in debating about whether these videos could be fakes, as it is already obvious to me that any of these videos could well be fakes, and that there are various ways to fake these videos. I am more interested in discussing how these circuits might be working if on the off chance they are not fakes.

Like many here I have experimented a fair bit with these sorts of coil based circuits and my impression is that if some of these circuits actually do produce over unity then it seems likely to me that there is some sort of x-factor involved here that goes beyond actual specific driving methods and coil configurations and tuning that is giving the over unity. Whether it has to do with using a copper or aluminum liner or rod or pipe, or whether it has to do with some strange reaction happening in a ferrite core or some sort of combination of a couple of different effects would be anyone's guess. This doesn't have to be anything complicated, but it may just be something that a person wouldn't normally think of when thinking about these circuits in a conventional way. Of course I know many people are going to say the missing x-factor is most likely a hidden power source, and that may be the case in at least some or all of the replication videos, but I personally still don't want to rule out the possibility, however slim a possibility that may be, that there is something people have been missing that makes these circuits produce over unity. T-1000 has suggested something like NMR or possibly developing some sort of resonance with ground currents that pulls in extra power, which may be possible, and that guy at the mountain resort in France (I forget his name) has suggested that an oxygen free copper pipe with ferrite beads around it can pull off some sort of 'particles' out of the ground which can be converted to useable electricity, although this guy's videos don't seem particularly convincing. He may just have ordinary power transfer occurring similar to the kacher videos. Anyway, does anyone have any other ideas other than the obvious hidden power source explanation of how these circuits may be producing over unity?