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Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY

Started by 27Bubba, September 18, 2012, 02:17:22 PM

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itsu


Nick,

if i understand it right, in your above scope shots, yellow is the kacher signal (35Vpp @ 892Khz) using a probe nearby without its ground lead attached, just sniffing the HV.
Blue is the signal across the grenade which has a similar HV signal superimposed on it when ONLY using the probe tip without its ground lead. (118Vpp @ 892Khz).

When attaching the blue probe ground lead (to a common ground point i trust) that HV signal disappears, right?


If so, i guess thats OK as with a properly grounded scope probe it should only show the basic blue signal (15 KHz), and not anymore this also picked up RF signal.
If you now decrease the time base setting, you should be getting the grenades 15Khz AC like signal and at the same time the yellow kacher signal should show
a solid band.

Itsu

NickZ

   Hoppy:
   Would it help to connect the scope probe negative lead that's just hanging next to the Kacher antenna,  to a separate earth ground?
   I'm currently using my 100X probe for the  HV readings (yellow channel), three inches away from the antenna coil, with no negative lead connected,

   Itsu: I don't get a grenade scope signal after the full bridge rectifier, if the scope probe negative is also on, as it kills the HV superimposed on it. Even by dropping the settings no grenade signal at the bulb with the negative probe lead connect.
   I do get a signal at the wima cap. Shown below at the blue trance on channel 2.

   I'm still trying to obtain something similar (both waves) to what Stalker was showing.

   My current set up below, using two 12v, 7A batteries, for 24v input, and no input from the grid.
   A couple of pictures of my device now, just to give you a little better idea of what I've got going on at this point.

   

Hoppy

Quote from: NickZ on April 03, 2018, 07:05:29 PM
   Hoppy:
   Would it help to connect the scope probe negative lead that's just hanging next to the Kacher antenna,  to a separate earth ground?
   I'm currently using my 100X probe for the  HV readings (yellow channel), three inches away from the antenna coil, with no negative lead connected,


Nick,

I don't know if it would help you to see what Stalker shows but as I mentioned earlier, the channel ground leads should not be connected to separate earthing points unless you are sure there is no potential difference between them.

itsu

Nick,

the screenshot looks good, its the same as what you showed earlier from Stalker? etc.
Only difference is that he was switching / interrupting his kacher signal so it shows packages of HV while you have a continuous flow.
Try to reduce the blue signal time base even further to show only 1 cycle.  That would zoom in more on the kacher (yellow) signal.


Not sure about what you mean with "i don't get a grenade scope signal after the full bridge rectifier, if the scope probe negative is also on, as it kills the HV superimposed on it"
As mentioned before, connecting the ground lead will probably remove the HV pickup signal from the kacher on that blue channel.
As it will be DC now (after the FWBR (plus caps??)), it will NOT show up on your blue channel as it is in AC coupling, like i also mentioned earlier, so thats normal for me.

Thanks for the pictures, looking good, but it won't show all the interconnections like a diagram would/should.

To be clear, i remember that at my setup, the grenade signal looks similar (27Khz AC sinewave like) as the inductor / wima cap signal with a slight kacher
signal superimposed on it.

Itsu

Hoppy

Quote from: itsu on April 04, 2018, 04:37:01 AM
Nick,

the screenshot looks good, its the same as what you showed earlier from Stalker? etc.
Only difference is that he was switching / interrupting his kacher signal so it shows packages of HV while you have a continuous flow.

Itsu

That makes sense given what the Stalker waveforms are showing but I assumed that Nick believed that Stalker was not using a pulsed / interrupting Kacher, thus why he is trying to replicate Stalkers waveforms using his continuous waveform Kacher.