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Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY

Started by 27Bubba, September 18, 2012, 02:17:22 PM

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NickZ

Quote from: itsu on April 30, 2018, 01:00:44 PM
Ok, Nick,

i am not surprised,  did you also change the capacitor on the inductor to obtain resonance on either 18 or 22Khz?


OK on the tek scope, try the settings as mentioned by TK, it should trigger on both signals, but still the difference  in frequencies (27Khz and 892Khz)
will be the same, so find the best display with the time base knob.

Itsu


  No, I left the same 0.47uf wima cap on the inductor.  I did try some more caps on top, though.
But, what seams to provide for better output is the 0.1uf caps (2), in parallel before the output rectifier.
  Best running frequency with a 100w bulb on is about 27.3, or so. Kacher runs around 900Khz.
Most of the time I can't get it to sync up. So the kacher is doing little to nothing, as the different loads change things. 200w bulb, likes 13Khz, or lower, which I can't go down too. Like your suggested 11Khz, value.
I could always hear the Mazzilli ringing at less than 10Khz.

apecore

Quote from: Hoppy on April 30, 2018, 01:45:28 PM
Yes, it could well be a PWM push-pull driving a smallish toroid in place of the usual ferrite yoke. The ferrite toroid made me think it could be a Royer / Mazilli. The PWM push-pull, unlike the Mazzilli does give both easy frequency and duty adjustment, so would be a more likely candidate. I agree with your items 1 to 3, so think there is enough here to experiment using a PWM push-pull with ferrite TV yoke or toroid driving a fly-back trafo with spark gap.

So also can be said that the flyback transformer is feeded with square wave...  and therefore generates the spark gap pulsesn on positive and negative wave.....
Here comes the tricky part.... timing is only (as it seems) possible by adjusting the gap....
Looking at its construction.... either this is also not critical....   or the amount of power (spark cap) is as so low that there is no destruction of spark gap wire and or thermal meltdown of plastic connector
Which would lead to timing issue's

Hoppy

Quote from: apecore on April 30, 2018, 02:22:07 PM
So also can be said that the flyback transformer is feeded with square wave...  and therefore generates the spark gap pulsesn on positive and negative wave.....
Here comes the tricky part.... timing is only (as it seems) possible by adjusting the gap....

Or that it is fixed by selection of the SG dump cap(s).

itsu

Quote from: NickZ on April 30, 2018, 01:59:48 PM

  No, I left the same 0.47uf wima cap on the inductor.  I did try some more caps on top, though.
But, what seams to provide for better output is the 0.1uf caps (2), in parallel before the output rectifier.
  Best running frequency with a 100w bulb on is about 27.3, or so. Kacher runs around 900Khz.
Most of the time I can't get it to sync up. So the kacher is doing little to nothing, as the different loads change things. 200w bulb, likes 13Khz, or lower, which I can't go down too. Like your suggested 11Khz, value.
I could always hear the Mazzilli ringing at less than 10Khz.

Nick,

the key point here seems to be to have the kacher signal to dis- or inter-rupt the inductor signal when in RESONANCE.
It does not really matter at what harmonic relation , could be 50, or 60, or 100 like proposed earlier, but also the 32 harmonic
would be fine i think, BUT it needs to interrupt the inductor signal when in resonance.

So for you to change the inductor frequency to 18 or 22 Khz without retuning for resonance does not make any sense.

Try to get back to your 27.9Khz resonance situation and sloooowly adjust the kacher frequency using a ferrite rod so the both signals will
stabilize on your digital scope.

If you can reach that, then you know that there is a certain harmonic relationship between kacher frequency and inductor frequency.



Also be aware that the resonance frequency of the inductor and the grenade are different.
So when you have the inductor in resonance (27.9Khz), then you can try to optimize the resonance frequency of the grenade be adding or removing capacitors
like you mention:  "better output is the 0.1uf caps (2), in parallel before the output rectifier."

But this could influence again the resonance freqeuncy of the inductor etc.

Itsu 



AlienGrey

Quote from: itsu on April 30, 2018, 03:06:53 PM
Nick,

the key point here seems to be to have the kacher signal to dis- or inter-rupt the inductor signal when in RESONANCE.
It does not really matter at what harmonic relation , could be 50, or 60, or 100 like proposed earlier, but also the 32 harmonic
would be fine i think, BUT it needs to interrupt the inductor signal when in resonance.

So for you to change the inductor frequency to 18 or 22 Khz without retuning for resonance does not make any sense.

Try to get back to your 27.9Khz resonance situation and sloooowly adjust the kacher frequency using a ferrite rod so the both signals will
stabilize on your digital scope.

If you can reach that, then you know that there is a certain harmonic relationship between kacher frequency and inductor frequency.



Also be aware that the resonance frequency of the inductor and the grenade are different.
So when you have the inductor in resonance (27.9Khz), then you can try to optimize the resonance frequency of the grenade be adding or removing capacitors
like you mention:  "better output is the 0.1uf caps (2), in parallel before the output rectifier."

But this could influence again the resonance freqeuncy of the inductor etc.

Itsu
Hi! I don't want to be a pain in the arse here but if you look on page 250 odf this thread you will find the nano pulse has to be phase locked
with tje tuned grenade winding I think there is also an extra tuned harmonic winding hidden in grenade assembly referred to else where and hidden in
the loads of utter junk in this data base.
Read TK patent.

If the Data Base was managed correctly and sorted I wouldnt mind betting it would be possible to get it down to an indexed less than 200 pages of               
useful related index.