Magnet motor idea - again.

[Low-Q]

Vidar,
When you have the moving magnet so it repels, if you move it too far, does it pull into the slot?
It looks like this might work!

There is a small area where the magnets does not repel or attract. If I move the moving magnet slightly into the slot, the magnet will be pulled in. If the magnet is slightly outside the slot, it will be pushed away. The exact opposite happens in attraction mode - as you see in the video. The moving magnet is pushed out if it is inside the slot, untill it rests at the edge of the stationary magnet.


The reason why this is happening in repel mode is because the moving magnet, at this exact spot, repel the circumference of the stationary magnet as much as it is attracted to the horisontal surface inside the slot. Moving the magnet too far in, the magnetism inside the slot will dominate, and therfor pull the magnet further in. Moving the magnet too far out, the magnetism of the circumference will dominate, and push the magnet away.


This is a very incorrect educational explanation - it is no actual "magnetism at the circumference", but there is magnetic forces that dominates depending of alignments of the two magnets.


Further, since the magnetic forces are nullified at that spot, would it be possible to turn the moving magnet effordless in order to convert it from attraction mode to repel mode? That will be answered tomorrow, or Friday.


Vidar

[ionizer]

The hands are there just to align the magnets. When the magnets initially repels, the position where they are neither repelling or attracting is so delicate, only friction on the surface stopped the moving magnet from flying away. You see that I move the stationay magnet maybe 1 mm at max, which was enough to trigger the powerful repelling action (Which is pretty amazing itself). This last video is only showing how the assambly works.


To be continued ;-)


Vidar

1 mm max ? Actually no.
I see you push the other magnet the entire way back using your hands.
That's where you put in kinetic energy which is released when you trigger it and that is where the energy for the amazing powerfull repelling action comes from.
And you will always have to put in that amount of energy to get that reaction.
That is why i said now without hands.
The hands are your power supply it will not work without you pushing those magnets all the way back to charge the system.

And you know it.

[Low-Q]

1 mm max ? Actually no.
I see you push the other magnet the entire way back using your hands.
That's where you put in kinetic energy which is released when you trigger it and that is where the energy for the amazing powerfull repelling action comes from.
And you will always have to put in that amount of energy to get that reaction.
That is why i said now without hands.
The hands are your power supply it will not work without you pushing those magnets all the way back to charge the system.

And you know it.

Just for your reference, this experiment isn't any over unity. Ofcourse I spend energy to place the magnet. However, over unity isn't the point in this particular case, but a demonstration of how a particular magnet setup repel, attract or not depending on positioning.
The question is wether or not this type of setup CAN be interesting in case of a self running magnet motor - after a few minor modifications.

Vidar

[ionizer]

Ah i see.

But, no it can not be used to make a self running magnet motor.
Sorry to disapoint.
Unless you build it to certain external frequency specific energy carrying or moving fieldlines then it can possible run on that energy but only if it is strong enough to overcome frictional losses.
But then again, it would not be overunity right.
Then it would be free energy given that you do not have to pay for it.
But not from some magnets alone.
No way.

Bottom line is that you need an energy source to start with.
No energy source no movement it's that simple.

[lumen]

Vidar,

I think you may have solved the problem!
The concept is very simple, the field in the gap is very strong and to another magnet entering as attraction, the gap would have the opposite polarity and is pushed out of the slot.
So there is a balance point at some distance into the slot.

With the magnet in repulsion, the magnet would be pulled into the slot, but at the right distance into the slot, the magnet is again in balance.

This situation solves all the required conditions to move from attraction to repulsion without input energy and this is the critical point that you can just glide through!

I agree, your mortor design should work and will also need no input to start running.