Magnet motor idea - again.

[Low-Q]

Vidar,

I think you may have solved the problem!
The concept is very simple, the field in the gap is very strong and to another magnet entering as attraction, the gap would have the opposite polarity and is pushed out of the slot.
So there is a balance point at some distance into the slot.

With the magnet in repulsion, the magnet would be pulled into the slot, but at the right distance into the slot, the magnet is again in balance.

This situation solves all the required conditions to move from attraction to repulsion without input energy and this is the critical point that you can just glide through!

I agree, your mortor design should work and will also need no input to start running.

You have correctly understood the concept. What remains is if this really works in real life.


I have tested the same setup as with the ferrite magnets, but replaced the moving ferrite magnet with a long neo-magnet (70 x 5 x 5 mm) polarized through thickness. With this I tried to turn it 180 degrees while it was positioned at the neutral position with the "tip" towards the slot, but that does not work. The magnet really want to stay in "attraction mode" - just to see if THAT one worked. Also the neo magnet is so strong it swaped polarity at one point of the ferrite magnet... But don't worry. I have more of these ferrites - lots of them.


I must make a special magnet, cylinder shaped magnet made of ferrite, and polarized through diameter. Yesterday I bought a small bag with assorted round ferrite disc magnets. I will stack them, and then use a neo magnet to polarize them as I want. But I also need to extent that magnet with a bigger cylindrical magnet with same polarization in order to cover the upper and lower stationary magnets - under and above the slot.


This way the big cylindrical magnet is forced to turn 180 degrees at the same time as the smaller part inside the slot wants to stay. Hopefully the torque will cancel out making it easy to turn 180 degrees.


I will make a drawing of the moving magnet as I want it to look like. Will be posted soon.


Vidar

[Low-Q]

Ah i see.

But, no it can not be used to make a self running magnet motor.
Sorry to disapoint.
Unless you build it to certain external frequency specific energy carrying or moving fieldlines then it can possible run on that energy but only if it is strong enough to overcome frictional losses.
But then again, it would not be overunity right.
Then it would be free energy given that you do not have to pay for it.
But not from some magnets alone.
No way.

Bottom line is that you need an energy source to start with.
No energy source no movement it's that simple.

You might be right. However, this is a pretty inexpencive experiment, so it is worth a try anyways. As a sceptic to OU I have a bad feeling, but also a good feeling... the experiments will tell the true story.


Vidar

[Low-Q]

This is what I want to try. See pictures (They should explain themself)

[lumen]

Vidar,
Placing the color in the slot only shows what you already have.  You need to view this as field lines not as colors or poles.
If you put the end view of the slotted magnet in FEMM you will see the field in the slot flowing in the magnets direction, where the field outside the magnet flows around to the back of the magnet (opposite direction of whats in the slot)

What this makes is a far reaching field and a strong local field in the opposite direction. The problem is going to be moving from the far reaching attract, into the far reaching repel, because the repel influence will be there before you reach the neturalizing slot.

So it will likely repel the junction befor you get to it. I think you can avoid this by making the slot a bit wider and use a smaller magnet that can further hide in the slot from the far reaching repel area.

Or using a diametrically polarized cylinder magnet, where after the attraction when it reaches the neutral point in the slot, you could rotate the magnet 180 and have it repel out another attraction side. It should rotate with no force at the netural point. This will avoid the far reaching repel problem because it does not exist!
This is what you are showing?

[ionizer]

You might be right. However, this is a pretty inexpencive experiment, so it is worth a try anyways. As a sceptic to OU I have a bad feeling, but also a good feeling... the experiments will tell the true story.


Vidar

True it never hurts to try.
Good luck.

When it doesn't work out as hoped, and you are looking for a new and more promising direction just let me know.