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New comer needs any and all help

Started by jhsmith87, October 04, 2012, 12:42:28 PM

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jhsmith87

well honestly i feel like his intentions when he mentions those new ideas are him trying to give me tips and helping me make the best of my build. and thats how i take it. i put the title of the thread as needs any and all help, because that is exactly what i need. even if i am still working and learning on building my motor, i could use all the info i can get, even if it is some thing that is just a new idea that helps improve an already completed motor.

i thank him for all his help, and tips. he seems to be the only one that is patient enough to understand that i am like a child when i come to trying to build this thing, and continues to help me with every question i ask, not only explaining it but posting pics and videos, this is the most help i have received in the 3 months i have been researching this motor.

you guys have help me as well, and please dont think i am trying to take sides or dont appreciate the help you have posted in the past because i really do.. like i said i need any and all help. if you feel like you know something that i should know please post it, if you have pics of yours, or detailed instructions, or even videos, please post it..
again i dont want to seem as if i am taking sides, taking up for any one person, or anything like that.
i am just glad that he is giving me all this info, it is really helping me alot, and if you have different info please feel free to post it, u cant ever have to much info right??

i just dont want a thread i started in order to get help on this build to turn into a flame war on what suggestions are best, what is the right way and all that.. bottom line is, i am sure you all have or have had a working motor of the kind i am trying to build. and i bet anything you didnt all build them identical. like i said before there is more than one way to skin a cat. just cause you start from the head of the cat and he starts from the feet dont make you or him any more right.
if you have made one of these motors and it works then this thread is for you to show me in detail (if you can) how you did it and what you used. not to argue over who's is right or wrong, if it works then it is RIGHT (for this thread anyway).

so please start a new thread called debate over correct way to build a bedini, or something like that. i am really just not wanting any one here arguing. if you dont want to help me, and show me how you done it, then please just dont post anything.
i hope every one will take notion to my request, and stop the bickering, and all collectively give me some incite on how i could make mine.

sorry if i upset anyone, of if anyone didnt like something i said, my goal here was not to attack, and/or make anyone feel in anyway as if i dont want their help cause i do really need it. but instead my goal was to try to stop the back and forth bickering, and try to have everyone understand clearly that i would appreciate it if you could do that else where, and use this thread to just show and explain your build.
thank you. and please keep posting, i dont want anyone not to post again because they feel as if they're advice is not wanted, it is.   

jhsmith87

Quote from: TinselKoala on October 12, 2012, 01:27:38 AM
A little trick I learned when working with Orbette (the Steorn pulse motor of the third kind) was to use a bias magnet on the core. This works here too! By placing a small NdB magnet on the core rod extension at the location indicated in the picture below, I can get a 10 percent increase in top RPM, going from about 1000 to about 1100 RPM with 13 volts in. Turn the bias magnet around and I get a reduction in RPM.

please explain that pic to me. what are those big wooden spool looking things doing under what i am assuming is the rotor, and if that is the rotor would the wooden things under it hit the coil when spinning? if you take those off when it is on, then arnt the "arms" of the rotor so long they pass over the top of the coil instead of passing in front of the core?
i am confused on that set up.

jhsmith87

got my coil done now... about 1000 turns!! should do the job right?
i will get a picture of it up soon.

TinselKoala

Quote from: jhsmith87 on October 12, 2012, 10:56:21 AM
please explain that pic to me. what are those big wooden spool looking things doing under what i am assuming is the rotor, and if that is the rotor would the wooden things under it hit the coil when spinning? if you take those off when it is on, then arnt the "arms" of the rotor so long they pass over the top of the coil instead of passing in front of the core?
i am confused on that set up.
Sorry, I guess I wasn't too clear. The red round thing is the rotor: a Folger's Coffee Jar lid. I think you are talking about the top brace. Here, these photos should help you see what's happening.

In both photos, the motor is actually running at about 1200 RPM; the camera flash freezes the motion.

(I finally blew my best 2n3055, running at 36 volts input and powering two neon Ring Oscillators... and on a Friday evening too.... )

TinselKoala

Quote from: jhsmith87 on October 12, 2012, 03:09:43 PM
got my coil done now... about 1000 turns!! should do the job right?
i will get a picture of it up soon.

More is not always better. Just in case, and since you've got all that wire, I think you should wind another coil, with between 450 and 800 turns. 625 is a good number, right in the middle of Bedini's suggested range.

With your 1000 turns you might not need 680 ohms for the base resistor. I'm actually using 270 ohms in mine, since my windings have a little higher resistance on their own as well.