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Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE

Started by bajac, October 07, 2012, 06:21:28 PM

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hanon

The design in the video by john-g is quite interesting. It is not Figuera´s design but it is also based on induction by flux cutting into a motionless device. I love it. But I see one problem: When adding the second electromagnet to modulate the flux  you are creating a bridge across the gap where the wires are located. I think that through this low reluctance path many flux will cross and it will not go across the induced wires.

Out off topic, I have one question: The information in Figuera´s forums is quite valuable. You know how internet behaves: Today everything is into one site and maybe in 3 years that site disappears and there is nothing. I am thinking about doing a back-up of all the info into this Figuera thread (also links an attachments) into my computer. Do you know any program that make this kind of forum back-up into PC files?  Thanks !!

antijon

Hanon, I think you're right about the secondary path. When the coil is off, most of the flux will pass through the secondary because of the low reluctance. But, if the secondary activates in opposition to the flux, the sum of both will pass through the gap, similar to my experiments with multiple primaries. I'd really love to see a large, high-powered version.

Doug1

Hannon
The lines that look like wires are to show the sectional.One half running from the origin the other half from the feed back. The lines encompass the output coils in the diagram each side. N plus induced  S plus induced. The magnets are already resistance controlled 7 layers series parallel. Length of wire and diameter of wire.
  Break down a simple coil into its turns 100 turns at 100 volts = one volt per tuen or a hundred turns with taps each given one volt. It's still the same thing as far as the magnet is concerned. Any combination of turns to give you the voltage you want to work with going in as the source on one set N or S  then a portion of the output into the opposite set with the correct turns grouping to reach the voltage equal to the portion used from the output coil. On a percentage based scheme the voltages balance out to zero difference form the view point of the magnetic field and induction so it can suppress the origin while providing the right  tap/s create the same flux from the lesser current being used off the output coil. Archimedes lever and fulcrum. The effect of a quantity of flux from two different values of current. The tesla patent called dc from ac currents uses the current in one direction to block the other direction by way of batteries or motors or permanent magnets or electro magnets. Pat 413353. I dont think the inventors of the past stuck everything in one place as a complete package. If you think about it that would not be very safe on any count.
     

john-g

Hi Antijon &Hanon

@Antijon, I think (could well be wrong) the key is to have an arrangement such that the fields do not intermesh with each other but rather push / pull / slide over each other, thus the controlling field is not effected by the pickup inductor.

@Hanon, re the bridge you are correct the main flux may see this as a preferred path, maybe the bridge should be an air core coil, firmly squashed against the core surface?

Out of interest, I did have a play using ferrite E cores with a groove ground into them for sandwiching the pickup inductor in; however running it at high frequency gave me a real headache that seemed to last for weeks. Also I found that the ferrite core seemed to magnetically lock up,  so that after a while pulsing the control coil did nothing – Maybe that is a gapping problem but I wondered if with 2 fields brushing against each, opposed in direction,  if magnetic whorls could be setup within the ferrite (like rolling a pencil between your palms, the palms being the field lines and the pencil the formed whorls)?

Rds

John

antijon

John, I get what you mean. You want to reduce the mutual induction between the control and the induced. Eliminate that, and the only thing transferring energy will be the field coil.

In that case, the most efficient design may be 2 control coils with cores. One before the induced wires, and the other after the wires. But with the cores pointing perpendicular to the field. In this case, the control field should alter the flux path- like making it sweep side to side- but shouldn't change the energy or density of the flux that crosses the induced. I think you're really onto something here.

About the whorls, it's possible. But honestly, even if this device saturates I don't see why the output would stop. I mean, it works because of a static field... Maybe the effects were dependent on your particular setup, like some type of resonance.