Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE

[NRamaswami]

Doug1

I never said that..
When we draft patents  we must provide full informatio so that  another skilled person can replicate the invention. ..But at the same time make it open to different interpretations.. As  we can see it has been accomplished..even after 100 years..Figuera clearly describes the principles. I have built modified devices and they work as stated by him. But in his days the best mode of invention need not be disclosed.  It is a requiremement that came later. We have experimented and found that he is giving a working device but he is also disclosing the weakest mode of invention in the patent..
However the principle is the same for the best mode and weakest mode. He claims Patent for all devices based on the principle but that is not possible as improved devices are entitled to patent.  So Buforn kept modifying them again and again and filed the various patents..
Put very simply Figuera concept is this..In a step up transformer you step up the voltage but amperage is reduced..In a step down transformer voltage is reduced but amperage is increased.. But how do you increase both the voltage and the amperage..in the secondary..This is what he has described..

[hanon]

NRamaswami Dont assume figurea could not draw or made a bunch of mistakes in his drawings.
  No one has actually followed the directions yet.

Doug, 


Why do you say that none has actually followed the directions yet?
Which are the directions in your opinion? What is lacking in our replicas?


BTW, I am not bulding any king of magnetic amplifier. Magnetic Amplifiers are built to regulate a high power AC signal with a small DC signal. As I posted many months ago a magnetic amplifiers may be developed to create the signals required for Figuera 1908 patent but you will need to have a source of high frequency AC to be controlled by a 50 Hz signal, in order to modulate it and later rectified to get the final positive signals. A conceptual sketch is posted long ago but I am not building that right now because I feel I don´t have enough skills to do it. I am just building the two signals as a composition of DC magnetic field and +/- AC magnetic field. I think this is simpler to do: the first signal is DC+AC magnetic field  and the second signal is DC - AC magnetic field. Then you get two opposed signals in the magnetic domain (as required)


All this take me to consider again the main doubts I have about the Figuera generator: Why did he Figuera required two unphased signals in his 1908 patent? Why did Figuera required two inducers in his 1902 patents when he just feed both inducers with the same intermittent signal? Are 1902 patent and 1908 patent equivalent or not?  Why do all Figuera patents require two inducers coils?

[NRamaswami]

Hanon:

Why two inducers..

it is so elementary Hanon..

Lenz law does not apply between the magnetism that flows between opposite poles. That is North Pole and South Pole. The flux in this case becomes an additive flux..This is called as electromagnetic momentum..

In 1902 patent many coils are copper wire are wound around a drum shaped cage like structure But they were rotated inside the attractive poles which are kept apart by the bearings that held the rotating drum..

In 1908 patent the coils were taking the feed the magnetic flux between opposite poles. The secondary coil was smaller for it needs to take the magnetic flux that travels through the iron of S1 but also the magnetic flux between the iron cores of P1 and P2. I think Marathonman posted the pictures of such a configuration earlier.

The principle in 1902 used rotating coils. In 1908 it used stationary coils. Other than that the time varying magnetic field and the magnetic flux are both the same..otherwise no electricity would be induced..

[Doug1]

" The flux in this case becomes an additive flux..This is called as electromagnetic momentum"
  It also describes one of the types of magnetic amplifier that uses feed back as the control current.
   Moving the wire not the iron structure is a type of motor ,For the life of me I cant remember the name of. It was used in the drive wheels of one of the mini lunar exploration vehicles. The wire cage was the rotor and did not have a movable core structure. I think it may have been called a basket weave something.

   My comment about time was regarding the time difference for a dc magnetic field to develop on a coil over core magnet. Its slower then the equal power in ac. Something to be accounted for or engineered out of the design to be capable of fast enough switching on and off. It being slower it will be harder for it to reach the same peak values in the saturation desaturation curve. which brings it all back around to a low resistance dc winding that would need to have resistance controlled outside of the coil.Not by the length of the wire in the windings.

[NRamaswami]

Doug:

If positive feeback can be applied where is the need for a COP>1 device.. Every device will be outputting hundres or thousands of times the input. The only problem is how to provide controlled positive feedback current. If we master this..then there is no question of energy crisis..I have not even tried it. Have you tried it. If you know how to do it please pm me. No milliamps and millivolts devices but high voltage and high amperage output will need to be given as controlled positive feeback to the primary input. That is where every device that worked has worked. I have neither the knowledge, nor the funds, nor the working space nor the money to hire competent hands nor can I take such risks at this time. So I have not tried it. Figuera device and most ordinary transformer type of devices can be made to cop>1 some thing easily. This I have done. The two inducer model of Figuera has got some thing in it. Some unstated principle is involved.

I tested an ordinary transformer single core kind of thing.. Let us say lot of turns and lot of wires. Input was 220 volts and 15 amps. Output at the load was 300 volts and 10 Amps. The load was 17 x 200 watts lamps. Now let us not say that the 17x200 watts lamps means that it should be 3400 watts. 200 watts bulb will glow well at 140 watts input. Higher the voltage higher the brightness.

Now it is a simple transformer like device. The core was a plastic tube solenoid filled with soft iron rods and we would the secondary and primary on this plastic tube and that is it. What is the efficiency. 3000/3300*100 as measured on the meters.

COP of about 0.91. Now there is another variation which drastically reduces the input and increases the output. COP>1 in that device let us say.  But I do not know why the device would consume less in the primary but provide more in the secondary when the design is altered..What we did was nothing. To build two similar devices and connected them in series and put a secondary in the middle between opposite poles of P1 and P2..The primary input dropped. The secondary output incrased. Why?? I honestly do not know..

What are the values obtained. Let me simply say it is COP>1. I would like the give the honor of explaining how the whole thing works to Hanon and how it is constructed to Hanon for it is he who dug up the old patent and brought all this to light and he must get the credit.

Figuera device works. As intended. he has used controlled positive feedback to increase the output. That is very very clear from the description. But how do we do it..This is not known to me. I'm not willing to take risks.

The Electronics models are a waste. They would not work. You need coils of wire to send Electricity. Not chips that will vapourise if you send high voltage and high amperage. We must avoid thinking that 100 years back they did not have electronics and so Tesla and Figuera did not use electronics. They used what worked. They were very clear on the principles.

Figuera device works. I can tell you that. But the secret of getting 100 times or 1000 times or 20000 times of the input in the output is in the controlled positive electromagnetic feedback circuit. That is what I'm not able to do so far. It is the same principle used in Amplidyne and same principle used in Magnetic Amplifiers.

With controlled positive electromagnetic feedback current, any cop<1 device will also produce 1000 times the power output as the input. This is the area to focus on for getting results.
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