Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE

[Doug1]

Randy
What did people do before IC's? Life did not begin with nor will it end with or as a result of not having IC's.

I have a couple of prep'er friends you remind me of them. They have lots of stuff stock piled. They could defend off a small army and live off their food stocks for a long time. They ask me what I have done about food storage? I tell them I have invested in skills rather then stock piles. They look at me confused. Then I explain the benefits of primitive weaponry and practice with silence and stealth and having a few prep'er friends who have stock piles of stuff. It's a joke but the look on their face is priceless. Then they start to think about it a little more but they never seems to take the hint that with out skills there is no reason to stock pile. 

[NRamaswami]

I was able to convert the spanish pages of the Buforn patents to English and read a few pages that are of interest to me. I have not read them all.

One clear thing that emerges is this..The inpur source was a battery or combination of batteries. Initial power source was a battery.

The DC power from the input was interrupted by the rotary device. It was very difficult to make for us first and then we made it after a student has studied making brushes and bought carbon brushes. As the sparks were high we used a step down pulley system to reduce the sparks.

Now if we use a thick wire the amperage that goes through the wire is high. A low ohm wire or copper coil or rod could have acted as the resistor easily to send significant amperage through the coils. The resulting magnetic field must be varied to create induction. It is here that the rotary device was used to create interruptted DC.

Output should have been either pulsed DC or AC.

Buforn patent explains that a coil of wire of sufficient length and thickness was put on the secondary in the center and that was used to keep the battery charged.

The output from the feedback coils should have been converted to pulsed DC or DC before it was feeding the battery. Not clear to me if Figuera had access to diodes in 1908 but he was a leading professor in the world and should have had access to it.

The entire set up should have been present before the current was switched on. Once the power is started the battery is not needed as the induced power from the feedback coil keeps flowing to the primary. The circuit looks deceptively simple and easy.

There has been a calculation that the AC to DC conversion and DC to AC conversion losses are to the order of 50% when the usage at the instument level was taken. This has led to some innovations here that use only off grid dc power for dc based appliances.

I cannot say if my understanding is accurate. I have used AC and I have rectified it to pulsed DC and obtained results. This looks like being totally based on DC input and pulsed DC or interrupted DC to create the induction. If the resulting feedback voltage was higher than the battery input voltage no current would flow from the battery and battery becomes redundant.

But I still doubt if a small input reported at 100 volts and 1 amp can cause this kind of a claimed result of 20000 watts. I find it very difficult to believe. If at all it was achieved it would have required an enormous amount of wire and iron.

The largest electromagent I made was 18 inches in diameter and we took 4 mandays to build that. 11 filar coil was wound on iron and plastic for 18 inches length and 18 layers and 18 inches was its width. That was all the wire we had. No current went out of the coil although the input showed 220 volts and 0.5 amp and the magnetic field was very powerful. Almost near saturation levels and the magnet was screaming. This is what I called magnet eating electricity in the first of my posts last year..

I thought we found some thing new... Nothing..resistance was more than 220 ohms or higher and so it was not sufficient for any current to flow while the input significantly magnetized the electromagnet. If the wires are used to make two such electromagnets and the secondary is placed in between them the secondary must produce more than the input. I accept this as doable as I have done it but it still is very unbelievable that such a small source of input as 100 watts can be used to create 20000 watts of output. But with electricity and magnetism I have learnt that the theories or our beliefs do not exactly work and what we observe in practical experiments are different. So I cannot rule it out either. Please give some allowance here to me as I did not have any guidance or background education in this field.

Apparantly Prof Figuera had a sizable funding for his experiments as did Tesla. These are very expensive experiments. Very very expensive and very very time consuming. It has drained me a lot of money and time.

Whether electronics or otherwise unless we use significant wires and number of turns and amperages it is not possible to achieve this kind of results.

Honestly I do not think that Figuera needed resistors to vary the current to vary the magnetic field. That could have been easily done by varying the turns and layers of coils in each electromagnet. Magnetic field strength = Number of turns per unit length X Amperes.

You vary either the number of turns or the Amperes and it is not as if the Amperes alone needed to be varied. That explanation is not credible.
Secondly in practical experiments we have found that only when the two electromagnets are either equal or nearly equal in strength we got significant output. The fundamentals cannot change.

I hope that the information I have provided is useful to others.

[RandyFL]

@ Doug... its nice to have friends...to barter with...to help in a pinch...to call a friend is to break bread with...you can never have enough friends...
I'll stock pile the 555 s and the 4017s... when the grid fails...or whatever... I'll ride my bicycle to my friends houses (carrying my gun or whatever...)

@Ramaswami...still thinking and pouring over circuits.

All the Best
RandyFL

[forest]

NRamaswami


Thank You for detailed explanation. I also translated some parts of Bufor patent into English but not the whole. The interesting point is how many times he is talking about Earth magnetism.
I have no slight doubt that Figuera used coils resistance and tapped coils in various points instead of resistors. Basically it's simple, and he had no much funds also - he re-used the AC generator he had from rotary device he patented in 1902 (that one with stationary armature core and field coils while rotating only copper coils of rotor).

[NRamaswami]

Forest:

I thank you for your kind words. I'm obliged.

I have read some documents that say if we create an artificial voltage differences between North and south direction placed points through coils of wires wound Natrually in East and west direction..with the earth points being preceeded by a bank of capacitors it is just enough if we create potential difference once and it will keep on flowing through the coil which can be taken from the coil without any interruption. I have not done these experiments. It appears that high voltage differences have to be initiated for this to happen and wet points must be put at both ends.

In Figuera patent it looks that the primary ends are connected to Al Origin. It is naturally the negative of the battery. Possibly it can also mean an an initial earth connection in addition to battery negative and the positive connection can be given to the rotating positive point through another earth connection. It looks feasible but not indicated clearly nor have I done these experiments.

It looks easily doable if we give the feedback coil to the primary in a pulsed DC device. Whatever be the increase in the voltage or amperage can be made to safely go to earth. The device will not burn out. We can have circuit breakers and resistors and metal oxide varistors and capacitors in series to control the votlage and amperage. It looks theoretically correct.

However I have found that whatever theory may say need not be practically observable. If any one has told me that current cannot flow through a wire and an electromagnet can convert the entire energy in to magnetic energy preventing the current from flowing through the wire I would not have believed it. Similarly I have made many devices that produced between 105 to 116% of input energy. Same device produced different amounts of output based on the input voltage fluctations from the mains. In general higher the input voltage and higher the output voltage greater has been the efficiency. The maximum efficiency we have observed is COP>8 but much more could be theoretically produced if the earth connections are present or if the earth and atmospheric connections are present. But these are very risky experiments. We really do not know what kind of amperage increase may come ( or may not come). If low voltage and high currents to be employed we must use very thick wires and highly insulated coils the kind of insulation of multi core cables. Secondary coils must be thicker than the primary coils. Secondary turns must be more than the primary coils. Secondary length should be longer than the primary coils. 

In general I have observed that higher the insulation higher is the amperage that is consumed by the coil. I do not understand this as well at this point of time.

If you wind a coil of secondary first and then continuing to wind the secondary start winding the primary and then still continue to wind the secondary you have the secondary running along with and adjacent to and covering the entire primary. I have seen that we can easily see COP>1 measurements in such devices. Always I have used only a plastic tube to build the devices and I have not used the transformer cores and I have used only soft iron rods and not laminated transformer cores which are less magnetic than the soft iron.

Unless some one is well trained in safety aspects we should not and cannot do these experiments. The possibilty of attracting telluric currents with high voltage differences between two earth points is theoretically very high. It is not prudent to take risks when I'm not trained in these aspects. Therefore beyond a point I felt that we would be taking way too high a risk.

Hanon has asked me to build and demonstrate a cop>1 device. Any one can easily build that based on the experimental results I have posted. It is not a question of one doing it for others to verify it. It is a question of any one being able to replicate the results that would convince the usual doubting persons.

Increasing the output is a question of increasing the magnetic field strength and increasing the number of turns and thickness of wire in the secondary and of course my experiments were conducted only with insulated wires and not with enamalled magnetic insulation. The plastic insulated wires were capable of withstanding 2000 volts easily though they are rated for only 1100 volts. I would estimate that the cables can withstand any thing around 10000 volts althrough it is rated only at 3300 volts.

I'm posting these results for there is no point in pretending the wrong way. Only now people are studying again Magnetics in India and believe me the rules and Laws of Magnetics will change and new devices will come. We built rockets and nuclear bombs and missiles from scratch. The magnetics field is nothing compared to what has been done by Scientists in India.  The studies are being made by a number of individuals as well as institutions. It is a matter of time before these devices become common place all over the world.  You may even soon see transparent windows and glass walls of buildings acting like electricity generators. That day may come in less than 10 years.