Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE

[Doug1]

"I think this is an easy way to get the two signals: using a magnet  (or DC inductor) + AC signals to modulate the strength of the final magnetic field. While one field is increasing in strength (adding the magnet field  plus de AC magnetic field) the other field is decreasing in strength (the AC field substracting from the magnet field). Later, when the AC is reversed, the situation is the contrary in each inducer. You will get two opposite signals."

That is pretty much how a magnetic amplifier works. A generator shifts the primary field to induce a secondary (the stator) without direct contact. Only the field is in contact with both in a generator. The signal would still have to be generated and the second source of power would have be generated to make the amplification. If the two forms of field use less power then they put out on the induced then your good to go. Figurea only used a small portion of the output to excite the moving field and turn the motor in the controller which is so much less then the output it could run itself indefinitely. There is ether a way for the stored power in the form of the magnetic field to remain constant as it is shifted from one inducer to the other minus a little bit for losses or the output is so large it can power the load plus all the required power to operate the effect causing the effect. Your still missing a couple of things which you will chip away at if you stay on track.
  I will save you one of them. Thinking in terms of a normal generator that rotates. A  single field from a electromagnet crosses through an air gap into a ring completing the magnetic circuit making it a closed path. Is there a constant force of attraction and how much force is there in ft lbs at all times as the magnet rotates? Or as I would view it what is the minimum and maximum amount of constant force required excluding the rotation since the rotation will be handled differently?

[hanon]

In magnetic amplifiers the high power signal must be alternating. It can not be DC. You need to play with its impedance, so it has to be alternating. As the powerless signal, which govern the output pattern, is an aprox. 50 Hz signal for the Figuera´s device then the power signal must have a much higher frequency than the small signal and later be smoothed with a capacitor. Therefore the high power signal must be HF or kind so (400-500 Hz or more). This is my IMHO , as far as I understand the theory of those devices, because I have never seen any. As you can see I give answers, not cryptics clues as you tend to do in your posts


I am not currently doing tests, I stopped it. I won´t go into discussion. I just post to help others. Bye

[antijon]

Hanon, that's a pretty good idea. The DC bias acts like the neutral zone, and the AC causes the rotation. But I'm going to say, as Doug mentioned the mag. amp., if the two AC coils were wired in parallel instead of series, the AC current would naturally go to one coil or the other instead of both. But this is all stuff that would need to be tested with experimentation.

Doug, you have some good questions, but that's what makes Figuera so interesting. As they say, energy is stored in the field. When the magnet is pushed to the coil, the torque is converted to the energy, or EMF, of the output coil. As the same thing happens when the magnet is pulled away from the coil. So it would seem that the magnetic energy remains mainly unchanged, and the torque is directly converted to the EMF. But in a different aspect, you could say that as the magnet is approaching one and leaving the other, they are both inducing EMF, which means twice the power.

But in the Figueras generador, and apparently his motionless patent before that, a changing magnetic field is used to do the same thing. And it was apparently a very small current. So what's the difference between his device and every other non moving device? Input reactance is the only thing I can see.

His device lacks reactance, and when the fields are changing, both fields are producing EMF, and that means with two exciter coils you get twice the power output, similar to a generator.

And this is why I'm now starting to look at resonant transformers. If a capacitor can quell the reactance, we can have current in phase with the voltage. Of course, a transformer is a transformer, so it would also require a second primary, or exciter coil, to increase the EMF.

Well anyway, you can replicate the device, or you can understand the device and replicate the method.

[marathonman]

Quote "until the present, none has tried to change, at industrial scale, from zero, the magnetic power of the excitatory magnets or electromagnets of a running machine".
Quote "This strange quote seems that he implies alternating the exciter current of a generator to produce the same results. When considering the generators of the day, with their large exciter coils, what would the results be?"

All Figueras is saying is that up until that time no one has varied the currant in the excitatory / Electromagnet to get the desired output. i also can't believe you said this "This strange quote seems that he implies alternating the exciter current of a generator"  Duh! that's what Most all of his patents have been saying..... he varied the currant in his electromagnets in an alternating fashion .... ie one high one low.

I personally think that hanon"s idea is not valid but who am i to get in the way of one man's research. i would tend to think that all human's have an enate history to over complicate EVERYTHING so i think i will stay on the track i am presently on. Figueras was a very simple man that built a simplex device that did not use Magnets in his design.
good luck to the both of you.
i have some design specs i will be posting later that can be used by everyone and tweeked to their liking.

[Doug1]

Hannon
Zero cryptology then. The signal strength being amplified can be cascaded into any number of amplifiers to reach any output you feel inclined to reach. It is only similar ,there are differences.