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Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE

Started by bajac, October 07, 2012, 06:21:28 PM

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ALVARO_CS

at all
language confusion I see.
Same as I posted about the two colors indicating two poles, here comes the air gap issue:

There is also a conventional way in electric-electronic-magnetic issues,
to express the physical separation (gap) between two pieces of metal.
When an "air" gap is mentioned speaking about magnetic or electric relationships between two ferromagnetic cores,
this gap can be not just air, but also any material with no magnetic nor electric properties; eg. paper, cardboard, wood, or even a paint or varnish or epoxy etc.

Therefore, it is assumed, that a separation of two cores by mean of a piece of paper is an "air gap"
Further more, no bolts, clamps or whatever other means are needed to keep the electromagnets in place apart of some
long wooden or plastic exterior structure to hold them aligned and touching at the junction, as the attraction when electrified
will hold them together. (that is, assemble them together before energizing, when no magnetism is present)

Also to your consideration, is the electric insulation (varnish or paint) between rods in a bundle, as used in transformer sheets, to minimize losses-heat due to eddy currents

Remember that the electric-magnetic properties-behaviors of electromagnets, are different if the windings are over:

1- all windings over 1 core (made with a single rod or many).

2- each element winded over its own core, and assembled together in line, the cores touching at their ends metal to metal.

3- each element winded over its own core, and assembled together in line, the cores NOT touching at their ends (air gap or insulated)

4- each element winded over its own core, and assembled together ALONGSIDE (not in a row)

The coil formers (plastic or PVC non-metallic) are not mentioned as not relevant to this post.

In conclusion, as the drawing posted by me, was stated as correct,which clearly shows an "air gap" separation between the 3 different electromagnets (including the cores), and a posterior discussion indicates that all the coils are winded over 1 core, and as I have already experimented with a Figuera setup, and know there is a big difference in behavior in the ensemble depending on the four points above mentioned, my confusion grows instead of reducing.

@Farmhand - please correct me if wrong (your knowledge is highly appreciated)

Alvaro

a.king21

NRamaswami
IN the OU game you can NOT trust ordinary meters.
These meters are designed to be used by conventional mains and DC electricity.


The only way to be sure of your output is to power a device or devices which require many times more energy
than the input.


An example would be
1. 100 watts input; output powers a 2 KW heater to full heat.
or
2. 100 watts input:-  output powers 20 x 100 watt incandescent light bulbs to full light and heat.


Alternatively make a small device that anyone can replicate.
Not all of us have access to the heavy duty wire which you are using.


Anyway good luck sir.

vineet_kiran

 
@ALVARO_CS,  NRamaswamy,

Instead of making things complicated why don't you provide air gap in a standard transformer itself?  Please gothrough the attachment and let me have your thoughts.

You can make such arrangement in a 6 Volts or 12 volts transformer reducing the cost and also avoiding any sort of risk with high voltages.

NoMoreSlave

Hi All,
I think NRamaswami ist not here to share anything!, he told us he want to fill a PTC with Spanish patent from 1916 (the oldest one), and after that he will show us some iron bars with wires!
so tell me NRamaswami, did you came with anything new?
did Bajac, Hannon, Farmhand dont share allot of the technical aspects of Figuera?
Are you the only one who see the changing B to induce current in the secondary??
My friend, if you really want us to give you a technical explanation in order to fill a patent, then I must say, just keep everything for you, but please don't post more here in order to create a precedent for you patent! because everything posted in public domain is not more patentable, I hope everyone got it.
If you want to be reach, than find another forum, in this one WE the people of the word are trying to free our self's from such thing.

@Farmhand, Bajac, Forest, Hanon,.....:
could you please make any comment on the theoretical aspect of what I posted I the last picture?
I will very appreciated.
Thanks!

@Hanon:
If anyone should take credits for the discovery of Figuera´s patent and his content, that one must be you!
I will send you my though about the patents, as I promised.

Regards,
NMS



NRamaswami

@Nomoreslave:

Thanks for the kind words. My provisional patent was filed 8 months back. So when I file PCT I would get that date.

Please do not try to replicate what I have shown in the earlier pages. You can see that It is not a small device and not a small voltage or amperage test device. Others have used small devices.

I do not know how to calculate. However one of my friends who knows theoretical calculations has come up with a xx KW in theory for the device. The wires will not withstand that.

I know if I wind 220 winds of heavy wire and give 630 windings from the secondary, then the secondary would be stepped down to 220 volts. But what will be the amperage? We really did not know. The friend who can calculate has come up with a figure of more than xx kilowatts. He is not able to believe it. This is low frequency, high voltage, high amperage electricity. I cannot play around with it.

I have already told you all the working principle of Figuera devices. They are based on Magnetic attraction and in this case he used both Magnetic attraction and Magnetic repulsion. Output could be very high. Newton II hit it immediately by saying that Magnetic fluxes would be additive and out put would be tremendous. Another friend who appears to have tested self sustaining coils has asked a test question and I have answered him in my posts.

None of you have denied my assertion that there are no devices that are presently used for electrical generation based on the theory of combining forces of magnetic attraction and magnetic repulsion.

But use wires that are very thick and are more than 1500 meters long for this experiment as well. Figurea talks about reels and reels of coils. 
Hubbard used thick cables with Heavy voltage line insulated wires.

You are correct that I can provide full details only after filing the PCT application. Your understanding is highly appreciated. Not all applications are lead to patents. Not all patents issued are commercialized. I'm more worried on the aspects of safety. So please do not replicate and if you do so I'm not responsible. Hanon knows me.

If you do not have high capacity wires for more than 1500 meteres this system is not for you. Do not try to replicate. I will do it and will show it to you after filing the patent and since I would file the PCT patent, it would be published in its entirety. After filing it and after getting the International priority date, I will disclose the complete system.

I can confirm to you that I have tested devices that have 116% output as compared to input as measured by us. It may well be possible to build this device on a small scale. But we have done tests only with large scale in mind. So I do not know how the small scale devices would perform.

Give me a week or two and then I would come back and provide details.