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Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE

Started by bajac, October 07, 2012, 06:21:28 PM

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hanon

Hi Doug,

The newspaper references correspond to the 1902 generator which was witnessed by many people and journalist generating 15 HP .  I can not assure which was the actual current output from that machine because the input was stated to be intermittent. The 1902 patents are very poor in details.

Later on, the design evolved into the final patent/device: the 1908 patent metions that the output from the 1908 generator may pass by a conmutator to convert it into direct current if required. Therefore I suppose that the 1908 device produced AC (or a kind of AC wave)

Regards




NoMoreSlave

Hallo Everyone,
this is my first post in OU so please bear with me!
I was reading and following the evolution of different forums and threads related to "Free energy", and one of most directly related is this one: Figuera Generator.
I took my time to read an re-read the patents and I read also all available information in English and Spanish languages posted here and there by hanon, bajac and other members.
So I did my home work before trying to register here in OU and give my opinion about the invention of Mr. Figuera.

The most significant patent IMO is that one with a rotary commentator. This one tray to SIMULATE or EMULATE the principal of the Dynamo "faraday induction effect".
In order to get into the subject of his invention, Mr Figuera, took his time to make an introduction to the classical dynamos/generators:
In order to understand what they are, he started by observing the rotation of the rotor (with the induced coil) between the two OPPOSITE poles of two magnets or electromagnets (very known concept).
Then he made his critics regarding this solution (introduced by Gramme, Werner von Siemens, Paxii and others), and he based his opinion explaining the problem with dragging (Lenz low)and subsequently the more energy needed to rotate the rotor, so making them inefficient (energy transformer device).

His solution was: no more moving "rotor" (that means no more energy needed to break the dragging) but instead he was moving magnetic field making so a solid state power generator (analog to the Columbus Eggs or the rotating magnetic field in the Tesla`s patents). And the power needed to create this moving magnetic field is very small and it could be derived from the output power of the device, therfore his device is a generator (not a transformer!).

He invented actually a kind of Resistor ladder (known today as R-2R ladder or DAC), so he could change the tow excitation currents in a complementary fashion, and then supplying them to the 2 primary coils of a transformer (like modern inverters BUT with a different sequence of excitation)!

The construction of his generator was not different from the known dynamos at that time! U-Shape with tow electromagnet and the collecting coil+armature in between them at the free ends, that is all!
He also stated, a small gape OR no gape at all is needed, because there is no need to move or rotate anything, so simple that it does not need any explanation! (they said)

In reality there is no limitation to any kind of shape, you can take any transformer make tow primaries and one secondary and you get a generator (IMHO you can even take a bar of iron or laminatetd core an do the same thing!). maybe the primaries wound a la Tesla bifilar are a must!

The tricky part is the sequence of the tow excitation currents in complementary fashion.  Just like "Arm wrestling" but in a synchronized way.

The 0 current in the output take place when the two primaries current have the same value, because they are creating a N and S poles with the same magnetic field potential in each side of the secondary core.
So indeed he was producing alternating current due to the alternating magnetic polarity created by the two electromagnet working together and at the same time by increasing one and decreasing the other ! (2 trianular waves taking only positive values at 90 deg phase)
I tried to replicate the same commutating solution with a PCB, but the precision was not good and I forgot the most important fact described in the patent:
There must be at least TWO contacting point every time! That means, "abruptly" excitation or de-excitation ARE NOT ALLOWED. No collapsing magnetic field is allowed.

That was the error I made. Now I am trying to make a better commutator, and i am also trying to make a better electronics in order to replace the rotating commutator.

I will share my design of the PCBs and the arduino code (based on public domain version).

Working together and sharing experiences and opinions in a constructive way is the most important step to find the solution for our common problem (make our self's free!).
Just for your information, the Spanish government created a new low for this year in order to eliminate any alternative energy for personal use by paying taxes more expensive as the price of the grid!!..and  they call it democracy...my post is a claim of the human right to be free for whatever we want to do with our life if we don't take others freedom.

I m very proud to be part of this revolution and happy to be with you in this hard way!
Best regards
NMS (NoMoreSlave)


Farmhand

Quote from: NoMoreSlave on February 06, 2014, 02:20:15 PM
And the power needed to create this moving magnetic field is very small and it could be derived from the output power of the device, therfore his device is a generator (not a transformer!).
Best regards
NMS (NoMoreSlave)

Care to demonstrate the claim you made that I made bold text ?

Have you actually created a rotating magnetic field device and drawn more energy from it than is input to it ?

Cheers

forest

This is related to our "contest" about what Tesla archieved with his magnifying transmitter. Activity - you think it is just a synonym for pulse power and there is no OU related , but I think Tesla got OU everytime and his talks about power magnification by capacitor discharge is about real continous POWER OUTPUT.


Ok, I found another gentle tip that nobody understood Tesla but he was not much eager to correct precisely what he got because it was that missing part not included in patents which gave him  advantage over Marconi and others...


I would not said that here but it's related, very deep related.


Here is that tip:


"The arrangement was simply this.  I  had a  number of studs
with cups which were insulated,  24 if I  recollect rightly.  In
the interior was a  mechanism that lifted the mercury, threw it
into these cups, and from these studs there were thus 24
little streamlets of mercury going out.
  •   In the meantime,
    the same motor drove a  system with 25 contact points, so that
    for each revolution I  got a  product of 24 times 25 impulses,
    and when I  passed these impulses  through a  primary, and excited with it a  secondary,  I  got in the latter complete waves
    of that frequency.


    Counsel
    What frequency,  then,  did you get in your secondary?


    Tesla
    Oh, I  could get in this,  600 per revolution.


    Counsel
    You mean 600 trains?

    Tesla
    No, 600 waves.  Assume then,  600 impulses per revolution
    and suppose that I  rotated it 100 times per second [6,000
    RPM]; then I  would get 600 times 100, or 60,000 primary impulses  [per secondJ,  and in the secondary a  frequency of
    60,000 complete cycles.  The primary impulses were unidirectional.  They came from the direct current source, but in the
    secondary they were alternating -- full waves.