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Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE

Started by bajac, October 07, 2012, 06:21:28 PM

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forest

I don't know how hard is to grasp the simple idea that all this free energy is ...something you use everyday but you must not use it without proper paper to use it  >:( >:( >:(  C'mon you must know what I'm talking about
for example about... http://pesn.com/2011/06/11/9501844_Magnacoaster_Keeps_Coasting_Without_Product_Deliveries/ 
what caused them to delay delivery ? some regulations laws which they were hard to avoid because they use that for amplification....  :P

bajac

 You are very welcome! NMS.
The more people we have working on the Figuera's concept, the higher the probability to break the shell. By all means, your opinion counts.
Based on my experience building this device, the tricky part is not the generation of the two excitation voltages but the construction of the electromagnets. That is where the invention lies. Of course, there is the important task of adjusting the correct voltage level to the impedance of the primary coils.
I have been making adjustments and getting different performances from this device. It is a lot of work but also a lot of fun! While waiting for the delivery of some components to build the excitation circuit, I have been reading newspaper articles, patents, and any information available from Figuera's time. Something that called my attention is the following passage from the 1902 Spanish patent #30375:
"As the soft iron core of a dynamo becomes a real magnet from the time when current flow along the wire of the induced circuit, we think that this core must be formed or constituted by a group of real electromagnets, properly built to develop the highest possible attractive force, and without taking into account the conditions to be fitted in the induced circuit, which is completely independent of the core."
I think "properly built" implies that this device has some peculiarities and requires adjustment of critical parameters, i.e., high number of turns, the right dimensions of the air gaps and iron cores, etc., in order "to develop the highest possible attractive force." Does the latter implies high intensity of the magnetic fields?
@Farmhand,
Your comment is out of context. NMS was just reciting whatever is written in the Figuera's patents and/or in the news of the time. Why the SARCASM? Up to my knowledge no one has successfully replicated Figuera's devices. But, we are working on it!
I noticed that most of your comments are not constructive but meant to disappoint and sometimes disrupt the effort for replicating this device. Just because we have failed four, five, or ten times do not imply that Figuera's devices did not work. Based on the historical data and the reputation of the persons involved, I am confident that his devices work. Not only that, prior to knowing Figuera's work, I was working on similar devices based on the same principle. That is why it was so easy for me to figure out his work.
It is ok and productive to argue and challenge the work being done but it is not acceptable to make comments with the intention to show off, make people appears like idiots, or even try to discourage them from continuum their research on these devices.
Bajac

forest


bajac

Forest,

I was wondering if "completely independent of the core" means that the induced currents in the secondary coils are completely independent of the iron core size. I have previously stated that once the primary magnetic field is established, the secondary currents will depend on the gauge of the secondary wire and not the primary current. I came to this conclusion because if the interaction of the magnetic fields between the primary and secondary coils is minimum (minimum effect of Lenz's law), then, the output current shall be independent of the primary current. That is, there is no fixed current ratio for this device.

I will try to read the original Spanish patent to make sure there is no translation error.

NoMoreSlave

Hallo Bajac, Forest, Farmhand and everybody,

Thank you very much for your warm welcome :)

Forest is right about the independency between the 2 driving primaries and the collecting coil or secondary.
if you read the following statement , just after what you sited before in your post, he explained the same thing:

"El procedimiento queda, pues, reducido a establecer un circuito inducido independiente, dentro de la esfera de acción o atmósfera magnética formada
entre las caras polares, de nombre contrario, de dos electroimanes, o series de electroimanes, accionados por corrientes intermitentes o alternas."

my translation:
The procedure is thus reduced to establish (put) an independent induced circuit, inside the sphere (field) of action formed (created) between the polar faces, WITH OPPOSITE NAME (N-Pole & S-Pole), of two electromagnets, or an array of them, exited with blinking (blinking = fading in/fading-out) or alternating currents. (See attached picture)

in other hand he also stated the following:
"Las actuales dinamos, proceden de agrupaciones de máquinas de Clarke, y nuestro generador recuerda, en su principio fundamental, al carrete de inducción de Ruhmkorff."

hanon translation:
"The current dynamos, come from groups of Clarke machines, and our generator recalls, in its fundamental principle, the Ruhmkorff induction coil"

I agree with you Bajac about the principal your shared in you documents, but in my INHO, Figuera was just taking the same known construction concept of the Dynamos and he just keeping them quiet silent and without dragging (solid state), and doing so in Canary Island in 1902/1908 should not be so complicated! 

Just trying to give my point of view Farmhand (BTW I appreciate the work your are doing, the constructive critics must be taken in account )
And I m devoted to go after this Figuera generator, at any cost!

The electromagnet lifts over 100 lbs with a AA battery: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGoOu8cPmeM
Now take the same magnetic flux created by this AA battery and shake it or move it at high rate, then put your output coil inside his "sphere of action" to get the juice.
Like this one : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUJza3l8rmU


Best regards,
NMS