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Overunity Machines Forum



Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE

Started by bajac, October 07, 2012, 06:21:28 PM

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Doug1

NRamaswamiVery well spoken.There are times when I wish had  command of communication the way you do.

dieter

Marathonman, I agree with your drawing, as far as I see it says the same as the one from me, no? Anyway, I was wrong with my first drawing (the fancy 3d one on page 51 I think), altough an interesting thought, not really what figuera was describing.


To clearify: in my last drawing the inductors are like:
N        S
(             )
S        N


But that's just the wiring, due to the 90deg out of phase of the 2nd inductor, there is like I said alternating snns snsn nssn nsns... In fact I think it doesn't matter how they are wired, it's self synchronizing, as long as the 90 deg. delay is there.


Now, 90 degrees out of phase, actually is the wrong term because we do not only shift the current (ampere) out of phase, but we need to delay both, ampere and voltage, by 25% of the full ac cicle, assuming we have an ac source like 50hz mains grid.
So, as far as I see, as the dummy I am (too!), we cannot simply use a cap as a capacitive blind resistor that will delay the voltage only, but we need to combine it with a coil that does the same with the current, so the result is in phase by its own, just delayed as a whole by 90 degrees. Correct?


An alternative would be the mentioned steppermotor controller or the original commutator. But a coil and a cap would be perfectly simple.


NRamaswami

Doug:

Thank you so much for your kind words.

I think the commutator and the resistor array may not be needed now. Earlier they used to have DC currrent and amperage was high and voltage was low. Cost of materials was low. communications were very difficult. Today we live in a different world where electricity is supplied at high voltages that were not available at those days. Getting a spark was considered an achievement today if you just tap the tester on a an open wire joint carrying current, minisparks instantly come boosting the input frequency boosting the primary voltage which gets reflected in the secondary.

So I believe that the Figuera device was all about defeating Lenz law effects using a method that is not in our books. But possibly known to them at that time. The patent specifically mentions that it is not subject to Lenz law. So I think that is where the key is.

dieter

I agree, but Figuera had to take care, not to be considered being the builder of a "perpetuum mobile" because that wouldn't be granted for patent, so the easiest way was to say it does not obstruct Lenz's law.


About the commutator, even if it is archaic, we should think about to use it, just to stay as close to the little information we have as we can. The more modifications we do, the more it becomes unlikely that we ever achieve the same effect as Figuera did.


You named it, sparks. Do we know how they affected the coils? Sparks can cause tremendous back-emf, and they may interfere with the back emf already given by the inductors. These back emfs by the inductors, seen isolated from the source, are rather soft due to the sinus shape pulses, nonetheless they are there and they are added to the following pulses, which is good.


But even so, I still don't see where the extra energy comes from.


BTW. I have made some flux tests with the ferrite core and the amazing thing is, although monolithic, the magnet flux can choose certain paths inside the material, and it always chooses the shortest way! (without any gaps). So, a single magnet at the edge of part 1 of my dual E- shape ferrite core allows to attract part 2. If I add a second magnet, part 2 falls right off, the flux chooses the path to the other magnet, instead of the part 2 ferrite. This way you can guide and channel the flux just like traffic trough the material. This showed me that there may be no need for the gaps. (tho I agree, not too many modifications, it's just, ferrite is so hard to cut...)


I am optimistic that  I can do some pretty conclusive tests this evening.

marathonman

Dieter i don't think they are the same. yours has two positive peaks and two negative peaks from two different coils and i have one coil producing only a positive peak up and down and one coil producing only a negative peak up and down with o voltage line being shifted every 180*.  i have reasons for not disclosing the hole theory until i get some test done with my cores. still waiting on Iron. if i am right i will disclose all in nice report with video for all. i am still leaning towards the 300 watt Vitreous wound adjustable resistor as i can have multiple taps at any position i want to get desired amperage. i originally designed my boards with LED's but i realized that any thing over 14 hz using 4017B's are a waste of time. they are solidly lit so no blinking....looked cool though. 4017B's have built in overlap that's why i am using them and also their is no programming to F with just 555 timing and the fact that i built them and they are just sexy. ha ha ha!
that deal with the Caps are not a good idea as Clemente NEVER stated a word about caps besides the whole idea was to get magnetic swing with a split core (two). if my theory is correct their will be no lenz even produced....my advantage is i am self taught and my mind is not corrupted by present day Academic or Scientific DOGMA that hovers over our Societies keeping us in the dark (dumming down) not allowing the real truth about magnetism and electricity being two sides of the same coin and that it can be pulled from the Environment at your house just like the utility companies do... i am out side the box looking in not the other way around.........i have one board at 500-800 HZ and one at 60 hz i will be testing