Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE

[hanon]

Hi Dieter,
Thanks for sharing your results. I have checked some electric theory and it seems that a cap unphase 90° the voltage. I think we must try to get the current to be unphased too

If you substract the resistor consumption, which is not really due to the device it self, then which is you balance.

I am lately thinking that Figuera really used coil in a row, not closing the magnetic circle. I arrived to this concluion after studing the last Buforn patent. There he cascades many group of three coils in a row saying that "this way you could use both poles of the electromagnet at the same time". He also placed all them in a row, not closing a torus, which apparently had being a better configuration.

This Buforn patent is opposing to the use of closed magnetic cores but it advocates a kind of linear configuration, longitudinal magnets. For some reason he needed to have open magnetic path at both sides of this row of magnets. Please download the pdf with the Buforn patents and check the last drawing. What is your oppinion?

Regards

From Buforn patent No. 57955

"If you want even greater production you can place the inducers and the induced one
after the other forming a single series in the next way: you place first an electromagnet
N, for example, next another electromagnet S, and between their poles and properly
placed you put the corresponding induced, with this we will have formed a group of
battery as explained before, but now (instead of forming as many identical groups to the
first one as number of induced coils needed) you can place, following the last
electromagnet S, another induced and, after this last induced you can place an inducer
N, following this inducer by another induced, and then by another S, and so on until
having placed all the inducers which form the series of electromagnet N and S.
With this we will have succeeded in using the two poles of all inducers except the first
and the last one of which we will have only used one pole and, therefore we will have as
many inducers as induced minus one, this is, if "m" is for example the number of
inducers, then the number of induced will be "m – 1", which determine a considerable
increase in the production of the induced current with the same expenditure of force.
...
Another advantage is that around the core of the induced electromagnets we can put
another small size induced electromagnet with equal or greater core length than the
large induced one. In these second group of induced an electric current will be
produced, as in the first group of induced, and this produced current will be sufficient
for the consumption in the continuous excitation of the machine, being completely free
all the other current produced by the first induced electromagnets in order to use it in all
purposes you want."

[gyulasun]

Hi Folks,

Regarding the core material for the Figuera coils I found a reference to the use of #7 sized steel shots. These substitute nowadays the age old lead shots (pellets) used for bird hunting etc. See this link for the reference:
http://open-source-energy.org/index.php?topic=1352.0 

In fact, Paul Babcock used such steel shots not only for electromagnets but even for transformer cores too. The good thing is that this material is relatively cheap, and you can easily fill up your individually sized plastic coil bobbins with them, the bad news is that you would have to 'treat' the pellets first by spraying an insulating layer  to prevent electrical conduction between any two adjacent pieces of steel pellets. In the link above the use of simply hair spray or any paint-spray is suggested. This way the eddy current losses are negligible and remanence is also small (hysteresis losses also low).

Price for a 10 lb (4.45 kg) steel shot (type#7: OD=0.1" i.e. 2.5mm) is about 21-23 USD in the USA (above link includes this USA site: http://www.midwayusa.com/product/459705/bpi-steel-shot-7-10-lb-bag?cm_vc=S014  and this video shows how to make an E core with pellets: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8U7esOiGBZE

You may find such steel shots in hunters shops or in hardware shops where ammunition for bird (mainly duck) hunting is sold. Look for the smallest sized steel pellet type (OD 2.5mm).

Gyula

[hanon]

Shadow,

Figuera got 550 V with his 1902 generator, the one that he sold to the bankers. You are trying to replicate the patent from 1908. We do not know the exact output for this last generator. I suppsose as you that he built it to get AC to feed the grid .

Your idea about using two independent resistor series to produce two AC signals is very worthy. Although I think that Figuera maybe used not 2 AC pattern as input but maybe two sawteeth shapes.

As you already have the machine and mechanical commutator maybe you could test two likes poles facing each other and tell us.

About the 1902 generator: all the info that we have is from this generator. Figuera just appeared in the newpapers in 1902, not in 1908, when he died few days after filing the 1908 patent.

This is the first time that I release this info: In 1902, as his generator produced 550V and 15 HP, Figuera decided to ligth the lamps which were situated in the streets around his house. Before selling his patent he was planning to light the whole city street lights with some of his generators. But after selling the patent we don´t have more data about this project. Everything stopped. You can guess why...

[ALVARO_CS]

From Buforn patent No. 57955

Another advantage is that around the core of the induced electromagnets we can put
another small size induced electromagnet."

hola hanon

I´m intrigued by this "around", as he says electromagnet, not coil.
may u post the original text in spanish please ?
(I revised all your posts and could not find the spanish version)
thanks
Alvaro

[dieter]

Hi shadow119g , nice to have you here.


Hanon, I do see the possibilities of multiple modules, but right now I am making great progress with this one, so I will not start at point zero with something else. Tho, using a number of pairs, they still can be connected to one big loop and work the same way as a single pair circle, but propably more care should be taken in the wiring between the inductors.


Ok, it sounds like a cheesy excuse, but my digital amp meter is broken, so I am haalving problems measuring the input and output properly . As you may know (see my video in the thread about arcs, sparks and electron avalanche) I stupidly measured Ac Amps and Ac volts of a stepped up setup that may have had 5000vdc. Since then the meter doesn't work anymore for any AC measurements. So all I got right now is a little analogue meter for vac/vdc up to 500V and DCmA up to 250 mA ( tho I replaced that 250 mA fuse by a thin wire) .


So when I said before there was 250mA at the output, this was measured in DCmA, so it must have been more.


The output gives a nice AC voltage with near zero dc offset. Now I added a full bridge rectifier at the output. When I measure the DCmA now, the needle hits the end of the scala fulminantly! I estimate at least about 500 to 1000mA. Dcv says 5 volts, but since this is still pulsed, Ac recognizes 10 Volts. Let's say 5 vdc at 500 mA, that's 2.5 Watt.
The voltage that is fed into the generator after the resistor is about 2 Volts ac. I could not measure the amps, since the range is limited to 250 DCmA, as I said. So I measured the dc resistance of the generator,that was only 2.4 Ohm. So (2v*2v) / 2.4ohm= 1.67 Watt (I guess I shouldn't do that with ac, but anyhow).


So this is my result:


In: 1.67 watt
out: 2.5 watt, probably more.


See, this entire setup is so simple, you can do this in a day, therefor I please you to build it and test it with your professional measurement devices. I am only a philosopher who's playing with my stone.  When I first run this generator with the right cap, so it worked, I instantly felt that there is something very smart going on, that Figuera indeed was a Genius. The device is selfsynchronizing and selfharmonizing, it neutralizes vibration and by that the output increases.


Please help to verify.