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Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE

Started by bajac, October 07, 2012, 06:21:28 PM

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marathonman

Thank you Dough1 this is exactly what i am working on. if you had seen the pic on my post 783 you would see that this is what is happening. your Bloch not Block wall twist picture shows the twist in the middle. well when the transition from North to South you will see that the Bloch wall is pulled up 45* from regular 0 to the A to B line on your pic then during the South to North Transition the Bloch wall is pulled down 45* from regular 0 to the B to C line on your pic. so this is where i plan on placing my coils in the B section of your Bloch wall twist Picture. i have good eyesight and i can clearly see on Bufone Patient that Haron posted  a common core is there. even my 10 year old Grandson and Daughter realized there was two coils coming off of the output core. i am thinking out side the box and not bringing religious Dogma to this OU table. i am 50 years old not a brat kid that thinks he knows everything and have been told that i come up with some amassing things from time to time .it is stated that this device is not a conventional Science device and that it is so utterly simple that it has been right in front of our noses. so unless you have a working device powering your home as we speak in which i ask you "why haven't you brought it forward" then i would suggest you drop the religious dogma that has corrupted you and go to anger management classes for getting mad at someone that is trying to desperately help this OU forum and myself get off the grid. i enjoy this forum and i welcome advise and suggestions from anyone and would never ever bad mouth anyone for bringing Dogmaless ideas to the table. when we solve this riddle i think there should be a CLEMENTE FIGUERAS day on the calendar .... GOOD LUCK MY FRIENDS

NRamaswami

Hi Dieter:

Thanks so much. I'm not able to understand the calculator and am not able to do this. Gyula has given significant info and I have requested him for help. I'm not able to understand the hints and in India we do not have any one throwing away microwave ovens. We are not at that stage any time now.

Hi Gyula: Pleaes help.

I'm not able to understand the comments of Farmhand that this device used or might have used radioactive materials. I'm a Patent Attorney and I have studied a little bit of science history. Let me now state my views. I'm not competent to write on equations etc.
Correct me if I'm wrong.

Lenz law is a basic principle of Electromagnetism. Lenz law as far as I understand states that the current produced in the induced or secondary circuit tends to oppose the current of the inducing circuit or inductor. Therefore when the magnet rotates the current produced in the coils surrounding the magnet createt an equal and opposite force against the rotation of the magnet. So greater mechanical force needs to be given to the inductor. Similarly in transformers the primary input that creates the rotating magnetic field has to be higher than the output secondary current for the secondary current has to be overcome. In transformers there is no mechanical motion and so transformers are the most efficient electrical devices we have today. Over a period of time, this principle has not been clearly stated in science books. They now teach that it is the mechanical energy applied to generators that is converted to electrical energy and energy can be transformed from one form to another and energy is lost in the transformation process so we cannot get more than 100% efficiency.

Now look carefully..In both these cases the output circuit is stationary. The inductor creates the rotating magnetic field. Now what will happen if we keep the inductor stationary and rotate the induced. Current will still be created in the induced. But the mechacnical force needed to rotate the induced is less, for the induced is only diamagnetic material of copper or Aluminium. The current has nothing to oppose or overcome. have you ever thought about it? Is there any radioactive material..

Lenz has an exception. If the charges are unlike charges and if they flow between opposite poles, the charges that are flowing between opposite poles are opposite charges. Lenz law applies only to like charges or identical charges. So when opposite charges are involved Lenz law has no effect. This is a law of nature. This cannot be patented.

Figuera studied these things. He came with devices that avoid the Lenz law effect. That is it.

He built a device in 1902 NS-NS-NS  The middle bolded NS is simple mere iron rod. There is no wire over it. He put a copper cage on this place. The copper cage had supporting fixesure at the two places made up of copper, copper ball bearings, copper sheet to which copper rods were welded. In each of the copper rods he wound copper wire and welded the copper winding at two sides of the copper cage. He then used a pulley and motor to rotate the coiled copper cage. Here there is a stationary magnet placed in between two opposite poles. A copper cage that is diamagnetic and made up of coils that required very little force to be rotated. output current had nothing to oppose. For here it is not the magnet that rotated but the coils that rotated. This created a device that produced more energy than the energy needed to generate the electromagnets and the energy needed to rotate the copper drum. A 1000 watts input perhaps for both is believed to have generated 20000 watts output. This today can be made by any one for it is out of patent. This is his 1902 patent. He used only cheap soft iron for this device..The output was used to power the motor again continuously. This is the patent he sold for a large fee at that time.

When we build transformers based on the principle of opposite charges or two primaries and one secondary placed in between two opposite poles, trasnformer becomes a generator. Since his 1902 was not used after being purchased, he came up with the motionless transformer generator principle. This is what we are all trying to do.

I have studied these principles and I have built a device that show 103 to 116% efficiency. Note that I simply used the above principles. Note I also do not know much about Electricity and Magnetism. I'm just a Lawyer. 

One professor has studied it and he is not willing to even accept it. But they are doing exactly what I did to measure it with accurate meters. I have simply told them that if we put up more wires on the secondary the efficiency would go up.

There is no radioactive material. This that and other mysteries.  There is nothing but common sense application here. Figuera has built these transformer devices such that the secondaries are connected in series. The drawing is only an indication and is not an exact replica of his device. It indicates the principle. When several such devices are built and secondaries are connected in series the secondary voltage adds up, the amperage increases along with voltage. This is some thing that I have experimentally verified.

In India there are millions of people who have lost employment due to power shortages. I have 1200+ clients. 10 staff. I'm struggling for 350 of my clients are not able to pay. All of them struggling. I find many young college students who come to me and I'm not even charging them a fee when they come up with a good invention and try to connect them with investors. Whether is power from the grid, power from solar or this or that or free energy or whatever, I simply do not care. People need electricity. That is required to get them employment and ensure that many families survive. So here we are all trying to do our best to see what we can do to help in that process.

I'm not able to understand the comments of Farmhand..

I await Gyula's post answering my questions. Thank you all. The 1902 device is out of patent and any one can do it now. Some one demanded that I build some device and demonstrate it. I'm a little short of money due to all clients defaulting due to economic recession, but otherwise I would have organized it and shown it to you all in no time.

I hope now the radioactive materials will disappear..and common sense will prevail.



Farmhand

Quote from: NRamaswami on March 03, 2014, 12:54:37 AM

Hi Gyula: Pleaes help.

I'm not able to understand the comments of Farmhand that this device used or might have used radioactive materials. I'm a Patent Attorney and I have studied a little bit of science history. Let me now state my views. I'm not competent to write on equations etc.
Correct me if I'm wrong.

Lenz law is a basic principle of Electromagnetism. Lenz law as far as I understand states that the current produced in the induced or secondary circuit tends to oppose the current of the inducing circuit or inductor. Therefore when the magnet rotates the current produced in the coils surrounding the magnet createt an equal and opposite force against the rotation of the magnet. So greater mechanical force needs to be given to the inductor. Similarly in transformers the primary input that creates the rotating magnetic field has to be higher than the output secondary current for the secondary current has to be overcome. In transformers there is no mechanical motion and so transformers are the most efficient electrical devices we have today. Over a period of time, this principle has not been clearly stated in science books. They now teach that it is the mechanical energy applied to generators that is converted to electrical energy and energy can be transformed from one form to another and energy is lost in the transformation process so we cannot get more than 100% efficiency.

I hope now the radioactive materials will disappear..and common sense will prevail.

I didn't make any radioactive materials appear I merely mentioned the possibility based on the time frame and the practices at the time.

Now you didn't want to read the book where this is explained, but you want Gyula to explain it to you.

http://sound.westhost.com/xfmr.htm

Quote3.   How a Transformer Works
At no load, an ideal transformer draws virtually no current from the mains, since it is simply a large inductance. The whole principle of operation is based on induced magnetic flux, which not only creates a voltage (and current) in the secondary, but the primary as well!  It is this characteristic that allows any inductor to function as expected, and the voltage generated in the primary is called a 'back EMF' (electromotive force). The magnitude of this voltage is such that it almost equals (and is effectively in the same phase as) the applied EMF.

Although a simple calculation can be made to determine the internally generated voltage, doing so is pointless since it can't be changed. As described in Part 1 of this series, for a sinusoidal waveform, the current through an inductor lags the voltage by 90 degrees. Since the induced current is lagging by 90 degrees, the internally generated voltage is shifted back again by 90° so is in phase with the input voltage. For the sake of simplicity, imagine an inductor or transformer (no load) with an applied voltage of 230V. For the effective back EMF to resist the full applied AC voltage (as it must), the actual magnitude of the induced voltage (back EMF) is just under 230V. The output voltage of a transformer is always in phase with the applied voltage (within a few thousandths of a degree).

For example ... a transformer primary operating at 230V input draws 150mA from the mains at idle and has a DC resistance of 2 ohms. The back EMF must be sufficient to limit the current through the 2 ohm resistance to 150mA, so will be close enough to 229.7V (0.3V at 2 ohms is 150mA). In real transformers there are additional complications (iron loss in particular), but the principle isn't changed much.

If this is all to confusing, don't worry about it. Unless you intend to devote your career to transformer design, the information is actually of little use to you, since you are restrained by the 'real world' characteristics of the components you buy - the internals are of little consequence. Even if you do devote your life to the design of transformers, this info is still merely a curiosity for the most part, since there is little you can do about it.

When you apply a load to the output (secondary) winding, a current is drawn by the load, and this is reflected through the transformer to the primary. As a result, the primary must now draw more current from the mains. Somewhat intriguingly perhaps, the more current that is drawn from the secondary, the original 90 degree phase shift becomes less and less as the transformer approaches full power. The power factor of an unloaded transformer is very low, meaning that although there are volts and amps, there is relatively little power. The power factor improves as loading increases, and at full load will be close to unity (the ideal).

1) Without a annular core there is no rotating magnetic field.
2) The output from the secondary is not the back emf that restricts the primary input, applying a load to the secondary causes the primary back emf to lower and this allows the primary to feed the secondary.

I can quote the words from Tesla that explains that his rotating magnetic field motors and generators acted exactly like a normal motor or generator or transformer when the load is applied to the secondary then the counter emf in the primary is reduced and more input can flow.

It's in this book. https://ia700302.us.archive.org/16/items/inventionsresear00martiala/inventionsresear00martiala.pdf

Now things change when we have gapped cores and windings separated and this device is one such case. Still there is absolutly no reason this device should output more energy than is input. Outputting more power than is input is easy, transferring more energy to the load than is input is more difficult or impossible so far for an apparently closed system such as the Figuera device.

VxA = Apparent power, not real power, and power is not energy.

Feel free to show your OU results when you get them.

If Gyula doesn't answer feel free to ask him again.

Cheers

NRamaswami

Hi Farmhand:

Thanks for the reply. I have made only NS-NS-NS configuration. Primary was connected to first to coil and then to a resistive load of lamps. Secondary was connected to a resistive load.

Primary input 1000 watts
Primary load expended 960 watts
Loss in primary - energy spent in coil - 40 watts
Secondary wattage - 166.5 watts

Total input 1000 watts.
Total output 960+166.5m= 1076.5 watts
Efficiency Input:output 107.65%

This is on load. This is experimentally verified result. I can give you Volts and Amps measured as well and more after patent is filed. 

I believe my experimental results. Because I have done them, measured them and seen them. Dieter got a similar result and so it matches.

Ramaswami is not able to calculate certain things and needs help for this is not his domain. But Figuera was a Professor of eminence. The same Tesla that you quoted has said when the report about Figuera was mentioned that he has already built several such self sustaining machines already.

How come Tesla built such devices if he make a contrary statement as you indicate about the theoretical possibility or theoretical limitation?  Does not match really..Right.

And no banker is going to pay a lot of money for a machine that would not function. Right. Ok Tesla is not God and even if God were to say some thing it must be verifiable by experimental results.

Law of Patents has changed in the last one hundred years. Now you have to fully and particularly describe the invention so that a person in the art can understand and duplicate the results without undue experimentation. Earlier it was not like that but you needed to bring an working model to the office and demonstrate it and the office would verify and certify that the device as claimed in the patent actually worked. Patent specfication requirements were not exacting as now.  It is only after that patent is granted.

Now no patent office asks for working models ( lack of examiners to handle applications and backlog) unless the patent application violates established laws and then must be proved by a working model and explain the concept of the model. 

It is there at that stage many inventors of these devices either declare that they have no such machine or as in the case of Thane Heins abandon their patent application without paying proper fees.  It is strange you see..

wings

Quote from: Farmhand on March 03, 2014, 02:03:27 AM
I didn't make any radioactive materials appear I merely mentioned the possibility based on the time frame and the practices at the time.

Now you didn't want to read the book where this is explained, but you want Gyula to explain it to you.

http://sound.westhost.com/xfmr.htm

1) Without a annular core there is no rotating magnetic field.
2) The output from the secondary is not the back emf that restricts the primary input, applying a load to the secondary causes the primary back emf to lower and this allows the primary to feed the secondary.

I can quote the words from Tesla that explains that his rotating magnetic field motors and generators acted exactly like a normal motor or generator or transformer when the load is applied to the secondary then the counter emf in the primary is reduced and more input can flow.

It's in this book. https://ia700302.us.archive.org/16/items/inventionsresear00martiala/inventionsresear00martiala.pdf

Now things change when we have gapped cores and windings separated and this device is one such case. Still there is absolutly no reason this device should output more energy than is input. Outputting more power than is input is easy, transferring more energy to the load than is input is more difficult or impossible so far for an apparently closed system such as the Figuera device.

VxA = Apparent power, not real power, and power is not energy.

Feel free to show your OU results when you get them.

If Gyula doesn't answer feel free to ask him again.

Cheers


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