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Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE

Started by bajac, October 07, 2012, 06:21:28 PM

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marathonman

Hanon;

"Suppose that we build a electromagnet with 700 turns with 6 intermediate taps at 600, 500, 400, 300, 200 and 100 turns . If we feed sequentialy to each tap we will get a variable magnetic field in the electromagnet".

Very good Idea and Very easily to implement. i think i will wire a set of coils to test this as this would save me $ 75.00 in Vitreous resistors.
i would have to have 9 taps as my AC board has 9 Transistors or two taps for DC version.

THANKS !

dieter

I agree with the resistors basicly being wasteful. The generator needs to overcome this loss, so it should output at least 200% of what the resistor grid delivered.


Using taps in the primaries seems to complicate things substancially, since the impedance of them is the "resistance to alternating current" that is highly dependant on frequency, meaning yor Ps will get diffrent supply, depending on the Hertz rate they're driven.


As the existing Resistor/Commutator devices are some great work, I would suggest to run them with minimal Voltage, eg. 0 to 1.5 V, and then simply use a stereo amplifier. There are some amplifiers that are very economical in power dissipation. Probably you should take care of the phase shift that the amplifer should not do. It may be most simple to use a car amplifer when you use a car battery already. They must be obtainable second hand or so for a few bucks.


An other amplifer would be this:

sparkbangbuzz.com/mag-amp/mag-amp.htm



hanon

Quote from: dieter on April 01, 2014, 07:11:43 PM

An other amplifer would be this:

http://sparkbangbuzz.com/mag-amp/mag-amp.htm

Dieter,

Very good idea the use of a magnetic amplifier to generate the two 90ยบ unphased signals. Please check post #492 with some insights about this subject:

http://www.overunity.com/12794/re-inventing-the-wheel-part1-clemente_figuera-the-infinite-energy-machine/msg383123/#msg383123

In your link I have found a second webpage with a practical implementation of a audio amplifier from a magnetic amplifier with two toroids, a 35 KHz AC source, and a few diodes. Very simple !!. I think that the two unphased signals can be generated from such a system:

          1- Using a small rectified AC signal as control current to the amplifier. This signal will act as the common DC input to the amplifier: to regulate the HF AC current. This signal will be the first signal from the two signals required.

          2- The HF AC source will be modulated by the amplifier to get the second signal. While signal one increases, signal two decreases, and latter the reverse...  This HF AC modulated in the amplifier can be sent to diode bridge to have an always positive waves with the reverse shape to the input AC rectified used as input.  Please check post #492 (see link above) to visualize this idea. I attach here the design of the audio amplifier used in this webpage. I am pretty sure that this system with a AC rectified input as control signal will do the job to get the two signals !!

http://sparkbangbuzz.com/mag-audio-amp/mag-audio-amp.htm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBX1-POuJMw

Any comments or ideas? It seems very simple to build.

Doug1

Hannon
  you will still need resisters to provide a small forward voltage to the inducer coils/magnets to prevent the field from the one which is "on" from totally backfeeding the one which is off.Once one magnets field swallows up the other two and all three coils become oriented the same, the time involved to switch back all three and the amount of current will be excessive as well. The collapsing magnetic field will have a high spike short duration that can be tamed if it passes through a resistance back to the common connection between the two inducers suppressing the consumption of the source.Glad to see your starting to think in terms of what makes a magnet stronger.
I only used one meter lengths of conductors in bundles to keep wire resitance down to as low as possible. Using empty 22 caliber shells for terminal ends makes it a nice easy wind and connect up.Solder on one side ,wind then trim and place the other one on.Many thousands of turns able to handle lots of amps but only fed a few to establish a strong field to work with on the start up. The problem with using wire length to control consumption of current is you have greatly limited the amount of magnet you can create when you can no longer take advantage of higher currents. The only part that should get warm is the cores not the resisters.

NRamaswami

Hi Doug:

I have to admit that I have not used a resistor in between the coils in my tests while using low voltage and high amperage currents. If it works it is fine as it can cut down on the amount of wire and can reduce the cost significantly.

What is the kind of resistance that you would advise to be used for a 12 volts and 16 amps current source. It is a pretty decent 192 watts and the amperage is also significant.

Assume we have two inductors and one induced.

Should we use the resistors between the transformer output wires and the inductors if the inductors are in parallel.

Should we use the 3 resistors if the inductors are in series. one from transformer to primary 1 beginning, one between primary 1 end to primary 2 beginneing and one between primary 2 end to transformer.

Now what is the kind of resistance that you would advise to be used in these places for the current source of 16 amps and 12 volts. Please advise and let me test. I will post results after testing.