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Overunity Machines Forum



Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE

Started by bajac, October 07, 2012, 06:21:28 PM

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marathonman

here is something Hanon in relation to Sine and Sine 180 for those who are pursuing that. notice the phase relationship to one another.

NRamaswami

Hanon:

I must apologize for asking this question.. Did you test the set up you propose or is it just a proposal as I suspect without experimental observation and results..Please advise. I believe you would only get zero volts in that arrangement.

One Learned Member asked me for some clarifications. I do not do the research any more. No funds. I focus on my practice only. Had not been to this forum until your email.

Let me repost the reply I gave to Mr. Diamond below so it can benefit all.
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Dear Sir:

I do not know Electronics stuff. Patrick Kelly tried his best to teach me but I could not do it and the transistors we used could not handle high currents.

The diagrams at page 190 are dead wrong. They would produce zero voltage. I used plain simple 50 Hz Ac.

I have attempted to use Pulsed DC using diode bridge rectifier but the problem is when you do that there is no resistance in the coils and the primary draws massive amperage from the mains and the mains trip. I used 4 sq mm wire and in a coil I was warned that 4 sq mm wire should not be used to carry more than 12 amps. The 24 to 29 amps stated by different manufactuers are for straight line transmission of electricity and not in a coil.

The device is simple and does not require the commutator. Unless you use the exact system that Figuera used.

I'm advised that the theory is that if pulsed DC is set to remain full positive sign wave rectified current with the wave does not go to the negative side and remaining above 5 always the magnetic field will not collapse. if the magnetic field does not collapse there is no back emf and if there is no backemf no lenz law effect.

However the same thing can be easily achieved in AC as well. The only thing you start the current in Primary one at the corner of NP1 and carry it to NP2, NP3 and NP4 etc..The voltage will now divide.

To avoid Lenz law in the opposite side SP1, SP2, SP3, SP4 primaries you give the current in from SP4 corner maintain the same NS-NS-NS polarity. What happens is current is strongest at NP1 and SP4 and progressively it becomes weaker and weaker. So the magnetic core remains as NS-NS-NS (the middle NS denotes the secondary) and outer ones the primaries. If you look at Figiuera drawing you will see that the current is  being given at one corner (top corner and from the opposite bottom corner for the other primary). This creates a variation of the magntic flux for the field strength is continuously decreasing in one side and increasing in the opposite respective core. This is how current is varied.

Now the goal is to reduce the input current and take out a higher output.

This is easily achieved in AC if you multifilar coils ( the increasing inductive impedance will nto even allow the current to pass through primary wires and ultimately you will only be able to draw about 0.5 amps or less at the 220 volts mains input if you do this properly. You would need about 10 to 14 filar coils for this. Smaller the primary wire higher the resistance or impedance to AC and so the amperage drawn will be less. However as the number of turns of wire is increased the magnetic field strength is very substantial even at low amperage input.

Magnetic field strength = Amperage x No of turns per unit length.

This magnetic field strength reduces in the N side and increases in the S side. So if one N primary is strong the corresponding S primary is weak and so you have a variation of the current. This variation in the flux causes the induction in the center.

I have seen that we must use thicker wires capable of carrying high current in the secondary and thin wires that have high resistance or impedance and that will create a significant block to the AC input drawn.

The current is given to the whole system as a normal Solenoid. The difference is the solenoids are dissected and the current is given at two different ends.

If you use pulsed DC then you must use low voltage as otherwise the current drawn is very high. Because there is no impendance to pusled DC in the coils.

If you use AC you must use high voltage as the wires provide increasing impedance to AC. That eliminates all the reuirements for the complicated equipment.

The output increase is attributed to Earth batteries or Earth supplying higher ions as two points of earth are having voltage diffference. The earth points are filled with Iron and Carbon and salt and water. Therefore what we have inside the Earth is essentially an earth battery albeit a large one. we connect to such Earth batteries. We artificially cretate a high potential difference and this results in the ion flowing through wire from the earth batteries. This will continue until the Electrode is corroded and the chemical reaction can no longer take place. However I'm advised that if we use High Grade stell 316L steel that will not be corrodded or Titanium for the electrodes the action can continue for a long time as long as the Earth batteries are kept wet. 

The only thing that we do is to create a large magnetic field using low input current. that is where the multifilar coils come.

Figuera to avoid the high current that would be drawn by the DC current supplied used the rotary device to interrupt the DC current to make it pulsed DC. He then used the high ohmic resistor array to reduce the current that will be drawn from the battery. Rest of the system is as stated above.

There is no need for Electronics or Mosfets this and that here. it is simple system. I do not have funds. I tried to get funds to continue the research but could not get any funds. So I have dropped the project.

Learned people are disadvantaged because they are learned people and they tend to apply their theories. Because I'm not a learned person in Magnetism or Electricity I did the experiments and noted the results and I have learnt what works, why it works and what would not work.

But to me most people appear to be making drawings and assuming that magnetism will behave this way or that way without doing actual experiments, making observations and then posting results. And I'm not used to indulge in abusive language practices and no point in wasting time here was the idea.  So I have left.

The drawing Hanon shows is against nature and will not work.  We must follow the Nature. A bar Magnet has a North pole at one end and a south pole at another end. I'm aware that the North Pole contains a small amount of south pole element and the South Pole contains a small amount of North Pole element. I must apologize to Hanon for this.

There are no funds here to experiment. We have tried to obtain Government grants. Again No funds in Government. We are going through a recesssion and for my survival I'm only focussing on my practice.

There is an advanced version of this device that is evident at first look but Figuera has not disclosed it. If and when time and money permits I will do it. I will also post this on the forum.
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I would in all humility request the Learned members to see that I'm a Lawyer. Not an Electrical or Electronics Engineer. I'm unable to answer many questions on MOSFET and that kind of stuff. I do not understand them and have not used them. I used simple coils. Nothing more.

The arrangement has to follow the natural law of a Magnet having two opposite poles at two ends. So the connection has to be NS-NS-NS. The core is a continuous core. Of course many cores are interconnected to form the device of Figuera. It is very simple to replicate.

However I would caution any replicator to cover the electromagnets with plastic insulation. we experience a high intensity magnetic field which is similar to a magnetic field around a high voltage line. This high intensity magnetic field is at 50 Hz and is inimical to health. I have hadmy foot swollen like an elephant and had to take rest and suffered enormously because I did not know that the Electromagnets must be shielded.

I have to survive and focus on my practice and raise against the difficulties. I cannot answer any questions. My apologies.

Drawings of Figeura and BuForn are clear and self explanatory. They used DC and resistor array to reduce the current and the commutator to created interrupted DC. Because I could not do it I used AC and instead of resistor array I used multifilar coils. There is nothing more to this device and any one can replicate this device. This device is capable of producing electricity at point on Earth from Earth batteries that are  subjected to artificially high potential differences by this method. Nothing more. Nothing less.

The high output that we experienced in July 2013 is due to the fact that the Earth points were freshly made and the iron was not corroded. If it is corroded then the output will be lesser than the input. Again experienced by us and disclosed by us.

Regards,

Ramaswami

hanon

Hi,


I guess diagrams from page 190 may only work with the use of the commutator to move magnetic field lines back and forth. With AC both magnetic fields with confronted poles NN will have the same power in every instant and thus both field will "collide" always in the middle point and there won´t be any movement of the magnetic lines and induction will be null, as you tested. It may just work with the commutator.


Your development is related to the 1902 patent (except for the earth connetion that is not mentioned in any patent), while the diagrams in page 190 are proposals for the 1908 patent. You are wrong about the resistor function in the 1908 patent. I still insist that while you do not understand the commutation function you will not understand why Figuera used it and described in his 1908 patent with so much detail. Please ask for advice to understand it.


Suppose the system in the video (N-N polarity) but instead of moving the induced coil, you just move up and down the two magnetic fields colliding in the induced core. This is why Figuera created two opposite fields:


https://youtu.be/aCClYZp9Yls?t=2m55s


Virtual motion of the fields. No movement of the coil. Thus, No cogging.


marathonman

  Suppose the system in the video (N-N polarity) but instead of moving the induced coil, you just move up and down the two magnetic fields colliding in the induced core. This is why Figuera created two opposite fields:
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Exactly Hanon, as one is going high the other is going low Amplifying the signal .  push pull way of thinking. and by switching the signal at the 1/3 to 1/2 mark the core stays full of flux acting as Figueras put it "Batteries" in series.

hanon

DigitalIndustry,


Instead of reading the whole thread I recommend you to read three times the 1908 patent. In deepth. You will find that R is the name for "resistor"  (literally mentioned in the patent). You will aso find that Figuera stated that there must be always at least two contact connect in the commutator (what we call make-before-break) or that the resistor has the function of splitting the current and create two opposite intensity ( one field increase while the other decrease, and later the reverse..). Just read the patent 3 times and judge for yourself if the polarity is clearly defined or not. It is a pity when I see people just paying attention to the drawing and not reading in deepth the patent text.


In the next link there is a very useful GIF animation:


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