Overunity.com Archives is Temporarily on Read Mode Only!



Free Energy will change the World - Free Energy will stop Climate Change - Free Energy will give us hope
and we will not surrender until free energy will be enabled all over the world, to power planes, cars, ships and trains.
Free energy will help the poor to become independent of needing expensive fuels.
So all in all Free energy will bring far more peace to the world than any other invention has already brought to the world.
Those beautiful words were written by Stefan Hartmann/Owner/Admin at overunity.com
Unfortunately now, Stefan Hartmann is very ill and He needs our help
Stefan wanted that I have all these massive data to get it back online
even being as ill as Stefan is, he transferred all databases and folders
that without his help, this Forum Archives would have never been published here
so, please, as the Webmaster and Creator of these Archives, I am asking that you help him
by making a donation on the Paypal Button above.
You can visit us or register at my main site at:
Overunity Machines Forum



Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE

Started by bajac, October 07, 2012, 06:21:28 PM

Previous topic - Next topic

0 Members and 68 Guests are viewing this topic.

lancaIV

If we have not the finances and lab workpower to realize experiments we can look for the technical
results from other searchers Fleming/Lenz magnetic force orientation  controle.

A nice industrial family list in this publikation offered :
https://www.google.de/patents/US8242658
but going to this document :
https://www.google.de/patents/US6707208
So even though high turn coils produce higher flux per-amp of current circulating, ampere-turns, they also generate more reverse EMF and thus require higher voltage. A new and more effective way of interacting with these counter electromotive forces is one of the primary benefits to which the invention is directed.

The control of flux in accord with the invention is achieved by the use of permanent magnets arranged in a particular manner with each other and with magnetic flux shunts so that the magnets and shunts can function as unidirectional flux "gates", which can be used to manage flux much like diodes manage electric current.

               permanent magnets and shunts + which can be used to manage flux like diodes

It is commonly understood that a permanent magnet pole will only pass flux in one direction, i.e. from the south pole to the north pole. The magnet will not allow flux to pass from the north pole through to the south pole. Thus, if you have oppositely polarized poles on a magnet or multiple magnets arranged with their poles opposite in polarity, or in some way oriented differently, then you have a one-way flux "gate" which can be used to manage flux similar to the manner that multiple diodes manage electrical current.

But this is only an example how this inventor tried to resolve the motor counter magnetic force.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
The Figuera device ,with non mechanical movement (excluded the commutator), needs his own solution.

divide et impera (the machine): voltage and or frequency dividing
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?submitted=true&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&ST=advanced&TI=&AB=diode&PN=&AP=&PR=&PD=&PA=&IN=kazumi+masaki&CPC=&IC=&Submit=Search

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=st254llePPs
comment/answer:
Hola, gracias por comentar mis experimentos, el generador Figuera que intento replicar parece fácil, pero todavía después de tres años, nadie, al perecer, ha sido capaz de reproducir, este video que comentas es de hace tiempo, cuando Patrick Kely lo explicaba así en su libro, pero después de leer las patentes está claro que no es así como se describe en ellas, no obstante, ya entonces me dí cuenta experimentando que para que el flujo magnético pasara por el núcleo de la bobina inducida, las polaridades debían ser Norte - Norte y Sur - Sur ya que otro caso como tu comentas, el flujo saltaría de un extremo de la C a la otra, sin pasar por el centro. Yo por ahora todavía no he dado con la clave, pero no pierdo la esperanza y sigo intentándolo con cualquier novedad que se me ocurra o que vea por internet, si encuentro algo interesante lo subiré en vídeo. Saludos

Cadman

darediamond,

I have a question for you that relates to the subject matter of this thread, in particular the 1908 and later patents.

Imagine a hypothetical inducing coil as depicted in the patents.
The coil has a core with 32 cm^2 cross sectional area perpendicular to its length.
There are 500 turns of  wire on this core.
10 volts DC and 1 amp of current flow through this coil.
Suppose this coil produces a flux strength of 24000 gauss which is used to induce an emf in the adjacent secondary y coil.

Without adding any magnets or additional coils, or changing the voltage or amperage flowing through the coil, or the number of turns of wire, how can this coil be modified to increase the flux strength to 48000 gauss?

I know how I could accomplish this but I am curious as to what method you personally would employ.

CM

NRamaswami

Quote from: Doug1 on August 18, 2016, 06:52:00 AM
Lenz's law states that the current induced in a circuit due to a change or a motion in a magnetic field is so directed as to oppose the change in flux and to exert a mechanical force opposing the motion.

I think you have already achieved lenz free.

Doug..who did you address here..not clear..please advise.

Lenz law is negated only when the primary will not consume more current irrespective of highr load being placed on secondary.  This is the strict rule..who has accomplished it here..Please advise.

LancaIV

With due respect in Japan people file patent applications to be publihsed and refused called defensive patent applications. This is done to prevent the competitor from obtaining patents in a technology and to create prior art. Check if the patents are granted or refused. If they are abandoned or refused understand these are defensive patents to prevent others from getting a patent. This is why you see large number of patents to be filed. Without experimental observation repeated validation and independent replication we cannot rely on patents.

It is like news channels broadcating or telecasting news that suits the interests of their owners. We can take some gidance from patents but it cannot be taken as truth unless we verify it.

Cadmon.. I have already explained the answer to the question you posted in my earlier posts. Even Core asked me the same question and I answered it. Core indicated that he would agree with Doug that the device I made was a transformer only and not generator. I do not understand this really.

I can only do experiments once in three weeks or so.. If the results are worth posting I will post them

Regards

Ramaswami



lancaIV

Dear Ramaswami,
you are right !
Cause this there is ever need of avaliation : person,object,claim and approvement.

    Person: Prof.(University Osaka) Dr. Kazumi Masaki ( now R.I.P.)
    object: health,energy
    claims: many publications
    approvement: commercial use
f.e.
     http://www.pollin.de/shop/dt/MDE4OTgxOTk-/Bauelemente_Bauteile/Bausaetze_Module/Bausaetze/Bausatz_Elektronische_Akupunktur_KEMO_B136.html

http://www.genilax.com/en/

Beside : patent application and patent publication and to grant the claims is differently treated
by the W(orld)I(ntellectual)P(roperty)O(rganisation)-members.
Often in US granted claims are later in the european office/-s(headquarter Munich and now also Den-Haag) denied,withdrawn.

And to do the re-/search with healthy doubts:
http://www.rexresearch.com/kenyon/kenyon.htm               125% ?
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=17&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19770505&CC=DE&NR=2624810A1&KC=A1
use the (bad machine) translation function
Bei dem aiifänglichen Test wurde ein Schalten oder Umpolen nicht versucht, sondern die Spannung wurde direkt von der Gleichstromenergiequelle 24 zu den Anschlüssen 20 und 22 der Ankerspule 18 zugeführt0 Die Gleichstromenergiequelle erzeugte 32 Volt Gleichstrom, Die Geschwindigkeit der Ankerspule 18 wurde mit Hilfe einer 8 mm-Filmkamera mit 50 Bildern pro sec, bestimmt. Die Stromkurve nach Fig. 2 wurde automatisch auf einem Aufzeichner mit einer Aufzeichnungsgeschwindigkeit von 125 mm/sec0aufge tragen0 An der oberen Grenze des Schemas nach Figo 2 ist der von der Spule durchwanderte Abstand gezeigt, gemessen in 1,6 mm - Stufen für jede 1/15 Sekunde der Spulenbewegung. Wie aus Fig. 2 ersichtlich ist, verblieb der durch die Spule 18 während dieses Versuches fliessende Strom relativ konstant während einer Periode "t", die 50 Millisekunden Dauer überschritt und während welcher Zeitperiode der Strom ungefähr 0,4 Ampere gemittelt betrlg. Wie angedeutet ist, betrug die während dieser Bewegung erzeugte Kraft 2,4 kg (5,3 pound), welche notwendig war, um die Schwerkraft des Ankers 18 zu überwinden, den die Magnete 11 und 12 vertikal ausgerichtet sind.

    [0012]    Der Spannungsabfall an dem A er 18 betrug 32 Volt, und be dem durchschnittlichen Eingangs Strom von 0,4 Ampère war die durchschnittliche Eingangs energie während dieses Stufenabschnittes der Kurve nach Fig. 2 12,8 Watt. Dieser relative Stufenabschnitt der Kurve trat ein, wenn sich der Anker 18 über die Verbindungsstelle 14 bewegte. Die maximale Geschwindigkeit, die ebenfalls über der Verbindungsstelle 14 eintrat, betrug o,76 m pro Sekunde. Die mechanische Energie wird von dem Produkt der Kraft und der Geschwindigkeit dargestellt, welche bei Verwendung von o,76 m pro Sekunde als Geschwindigkeit und 2,4 kg als Kraft eine mechanische Energie von 13,25 llfoot-pounds" pro Sekunde ergibt0 Um die "foot-pounds" pro Sekunde in Watt umzuwandeln, ist der Faktor 1,356 woraus sich ein in Watt ausgedrückter Energieausgang von 17,967 ergibt. Es wurden Versuchsdaten abgeleitet, indem Elektronenoszilloskopen verwendet wurden. Diese Daten bestätigen die Ergebnisse der Aufzeichnung nach Fig. 2.

original document page 17 input/output  12,8/17,967
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
          " The german patent office does not grant overunity motors or generators !"
    There is a patent publication with clamed 120% generation efficiency ,granted in DE !

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=6&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19980305&CC=DE&NR=19632897A1&KC=A1
Gegenstand der Erfindung ist eine Kraftmaschine des oben angeführten Typs, die elektrische Energie in magnetische/mechanische Energie wandelt, und bei welcher der Wirkungsgrad, das Verhältnis von abgegebener Nutzleistung zur zugeführten Leistung, η = P   ab  /P   zu > 1,2 ist.
                                          2000 grant after examination
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/inpadoc?CC=DE&NR=19632897A1&KC=A1&FT=D&ND=3&date=19980305&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP

Cadman

Ramaswami,

The question was posed to darediamond only. I wish to get his personal solution to the question.

CM

EDIT:
Quote from: NRamaswami on August 18, 2016, 11:59:00 AM
... Cadmon.. I have already explained the answer to the question you posted in my earlier posts. Even Core asked me the same question and I answered it.  ...

How curious. I ask darediamond and you answer using words as if I addressed you.

Nah! Must be imagining things.