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Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE

Started by bajac, October 07, 2012, 06:21:28 PM

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SolarLab

Quote from: floodrod on April 29, 2023, 04:46:42 PM
The image I posted is using a regular stereo amplifier.  I got the wave full positive bias after the amplifier...

Scope is hooked up to the DC side of bridge rectifiers on the output of the stereo.

Floodrod - Quite inventive I must say - looks good!
{{ Maybe I should remove my last few posts - good info but they clutter the thread? (unless ur a mod and can do it) }}

Gyuasun - Thanks - I have the latest (but looks like the last update we'll see; unfortunately).


floodrod

Thanks SL,   I'd say leave your comments..  Your comments had good info...

Update..  After pulling my hair out for a few hours, I finally got that part figured out (I think)..  With the bridge rectifier, the waves are in-phase when we use 180 degrees..  And also in phase at 0 degrees.... 

Turns out because I am rectifying both sides, Positive is Positive, and Negative is Positive.  So 180 degrees are both positive... 
So with the bridge rectifier method, I need to use 90 degrees phase shift to get them 180 degrees. 

I am afraid to hook both channels of my scope as I have no bonded ground here.  So I checked both sides individually.  Each side is positive biased wave.  Then hooked up 2 identical transformers for isolation, and now I feel safe scoping it..  And Yeppers- we are 180 degrees out of phase.. And may I say, they look superb!..

Remember, the scope shows real AC because I am looking at the isolated pickup coil that absolutely will induct real AC from a positive biased sine..

1. Signal generator, 2 triangle waves 90 degrees out of phase.
2. Amplify with ordinary stereo amplifier
3. Full wave bridge rectifiers on each output. DC sides to electromagnets.

Now we have 2 positive biased sinewaves 180 degrees out of phase without switching input polarities or winding directions.. And these waves induce real AC in a pickup coil..

Thanks again SolarLab.  I am super happy you suggested this..   

alan

Great progress, you could also try out a rheostat, the swiping arm you slide back and forth manually hereby emulating movement of the G component, but current flows continually and isn't interrupted which may or maymnot be desirable. 
imho the fields don't oppose, the purpose is to make one N pole grow and the other S shrink, inducing variation and a flux flow WHILE net change of flux remains zero. Or creating a magnetic current, the analog is displacement current which is an electric field that varies, magnetic current is considered hypothetical, a mathematical construct, but the same is said about displacement current. 
Purely hypothetical: Since the time rate of change of each coil is equal and opposite, the mutual induction cancels the self-induced emf, resulting in a non-inductive coil (V1=L1.di1/dt + M.di2/dt, say for a single period during rise of 1 sec, i1(t) = 5t and i2(t)=-5t+5, then di1/dt=5 and di2/dt=-5, and V=0 if L=M).

Figuera: 
PRINCIPLE OF THE INVENTION - Watching closely what happens in a Dynamo in motion, is that the turns of the induced circuit approaches and moves away from the magnetic centers of the inductor magnet or electromagnets, and those turns, while spinning, go through sections of the magnetic field of different power, because, while this has its maximum attraction in the center of the core of each electromagnet, this action will weaken as the induced is separated from the center of the electromagnet, to increase again, when the induced is approaching the center of another electromagnet with opposite sign to the first one.
Because we all know that the effects that are manifested when a closed circuit approaches and moves away from a magnetic center are the same as when, this circuit being still and motionless, the magnetic field is increased and reduced in intensity; since any variation , occurring in the flow traversing a circuit is producing electrical induced current .It was considered the possibility of building a machine that would work, not in the principle of movement, as do the current dynamos, but using the principle of increase and decrease, this is the variation of the power of the magnetic field, or the electrical current which produces it.
The voltage from the total current of the current dynamos is the sum of partial induced currents born in each one of the turns of the induced. Therefore it matters little to these induced currents if they were obtained by the turning of the induced, or by the variation of the magnetic flux that runs through them; but in the first case, a greater source of mechanical work than obtained electricity is required, and in the second case, the force necessary to achieve the variation of flux is so insignificant that it can be derived without any inconvenience, from the one supplied by the machine. Until the present no machine based on this principle has been applied yet to the production of large electrical currents, and which among other advantages, has suppressed any necessity for motion and therefore the force needed to produce it.

floodrod

Quote from: alan on April 30, 2023, 07:40:30 AM

imho the fields don't oppose, the purpose is to make one N pole grow and the other S shrink,


I'm pretty sure growing north and shrinking south will not induct into a pickup. It would have to be growing north and shrinking north. Which simulates a magnet passing a coil.

Growing north and growing south = induction
Growing north and shrinking north = induction
Growing north and shrinking south = no induction

This configuration is growing north and shrinking north. Which is what I'm aiming for.

My 2 cents

forest

"when the induced is approaching the center of another electromagnet with opposite sign to the first one."