Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE

[nix85]

I understand what you are trying to say but there is no induction in such case.

If you got a long coil, does not even have to have many turns, just 1 layer is enough, and you drop the magnet,
lenz (induction) will manifest only upon entering and leaving of the long coil.

When magnet is inside, turns above the magnet see that flux decreasing while turns below the magnt see it increasing, you got two equal and opposite voltages canceling out.

There is no induction in such case.

There is a video demonstration of this on youtube. I may link it. Guy is surprized how closed coil provides no more resistance to fall of magnet than an open. Well, for given reason.

[znel]

I understand what you are trying to say but there is no induction in such case.

If you got a long coil, does not even have to have many turns, just 1 layer is enough, and you drop the magnet,
lenz (induction) will manifest only upon entering and leaving of the long coil.

When magnet is inside, turns above the magnet see that flux decreasing while the turns below the magnt see it increasing, you got two equal and opposite voltages canceling out.

There is no induction in such case.

There is a video demonstration of this on youtube. I may link it. Guy is surprized how closed coil provides no more resistance to fall of magnet than an open. Well, for given reason.

This is what led me to the possibility of creating an inductive battery of sorts, I simply envision the figurea device using similar techniques because of the pass through circuit on return.
https://rumble.com/v2u7rjg-example.html

[nix85]

This is what led me to the possibility of creating an inductive battery of sorts, I simply envision the figurea device using similar techniques because of the pass through circuit on return.
https://rumble.com/v2u7rjg-example.html

I understand you envision it like that, it has been envisioned in similar manner for many years here.

Fact remains if magnet falls through a long coil as you proposed there will be no induction except when it enters and leaves, and it will be AC.

As for your video, you are sliding face of the magnet across one side of the coil, so that is a very different story and is similar to something i used to do, two big multi year projects based on an idea of two opposite magnets N to N on opposite sides of a toroid coil cutting wire and that induced field in the toroid has no choice but to be at 90° to the main (vertical) magnet fluxes, i was expecting pure DC voltage from it for flux always cuts wire in one direction, but it ultimately failed, induced voltage was too low. But nevermind that.

In your video side fluxes cancel out, two equal and opposite side fluxes are linking with the coils. Main induction in your video is due to central vertical flux. Such induction should theoretically produce DC, i in fact i spent large amount of money and years of work on two different models of such generators that were not meant to be.

Anyway, you can check the output waveform when you do the induction on the side like that, make the coil longer cause at the poles it will surely be AC. According to these it is not but they used iron core.

http://www.energeticforum.com/forum/energetic-forum-discussion/renewable-energy/7086-generator-with-lenz-less-toroidal-stator

*Here, this guy confirms what i wrote above that voltages inside the coil cancel out

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dkrwy1KjcBQ

[znel]

I understand you envision it like that, it has been envisioned in similar manner for many years here.

Fact remains if magnet falls through a long coil as you proposed there will be no induction except when it enters and leaves, and it will be AC.

As for your video, you are sliding face of the magnet across one side of the coil, so that is a very different story and is similar to something i used to do, two big multi year projects based on an idea of two opposite magnets N to N on opposite sides of a toroid coil cutting wire and that induced field in the toroid has no choice but to be at 90° to the main (vertical) magnet fluxes, i was expecting pure DC voltage from it for flux always cuts wire in one direction, but it ultimately failed, induced voltage was too low. But nevermind that.

In your video side fluxes cancel out, two equal and opposite side fluxes are linking with the coils. Main induction in your video is due to central vertical flux. Such induction should theoretically produce DC, i in fact i spent large amount of money and years of work on two different models of such generators that were not meant to be.

Anyway, you can check the output waveform when you do the induction on the side like that, make the coil longer cause at the poles it will surely be AC. According to these it is not but they used iron core.

http://www.energeticforum.com/forum/energetic-forum-discussion/renewable-energy/7086-generator-with-lenz-less-toroidal-stator

*Here, this guy confirms what i wrote above that voltages inside the coil cancel out

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dkrwy1KjcBQ

Sounds like you had some awesome projects regardless the outcome.   Would have liked to be there looking over your shoulder... sounds fun!  I've also worked with a double north opposing in a similar manor.  It seems to me that a closed toroid wouldn't function as a generator like that but an open magnetic circuit would.   A closed circuit would need at least 2 poles and commutator to extract the dc - similar to how Gramme built his originally in the 1800's.   They used a toroid and NN SS configuration to move the flux through the rotor and commutator to maintain a dc output.   Brush build quite a few similar before he moved on to other designs again in the 1800's.  ( US189997)

Regarding the magnet down the coil, the dynamics are different using a magnet with both poles or sliding down a solenoid with a single pole.   The latter would be more like a generator where the coil wires are cutting through the magnetic flux field as the magnet moves along the coil.   The voltage would be dictated by the amount of turns within the area of the magnetic field and current by the resistance of the entire coil.   The part within the flux field would be generating an output where the balance of the coil would basically be distribution.   

The little solenoid does produce a dc output on the scope.   I built a similar solenoid about a foot long with a reasonable amount of wire which had 4 coils on the outside.   Each coil activated in sequence along the length, also producing a pulsed dc output.   

I'm not sure what you were referring to in the energetic forum link, the google search only brings up and error.   Good conversation !! We can learn a lot comparing notes...

[alan]

This is what led me to the possibility of creating an inductive battery of sorts, I simply envision the figurea device using similar techniques because of the pass through circuit on return.
https://rumble.com/v2u7rjg-example.html

Bingo! You have no idea what you just have done, you shared the most basic proof of concept for free energy. 
That's a Flux-capacitor heh. 
thanks for sharing. 
edit 
do you have a schematic? maybe I had something else in mind.