new magnet ball in a tube motor ?

[powercat]

Hi Gyula,
thank you for those videos, yes I have seen some of them before, interesting as a possible way of assisting
the magnet ball, I also had some more thoughts.......making a vacuum in the tube for more efficiency
or possibly a double layered tube, with one layer filled with liquid nitrogen.

Before attempting a build I would like to understand more about how efficient this could be.
I prefer to build with off the shelf parts if possible as my skills and knowledge are limited,
it is good to share ideas and information with other members before taking a leap into the dark.

What I'm still finding strange is that I cannot find any motor/generator that has been made this way,
Is this a unique idea ?  Time will tell.

[powercat]

Hi DreamThinkBuild
Thanks for that information very close to what I'm thinking, though he was not using a magnet ball,
the train carriage like system is interesting, would love to see a video of it in action.

The other problem is this is a very custom built device looking at the drawings nearly everything is handmade.
I know there are some good coil builders out there that might be capable of some sort of replication.

I feel the search continues to see if this (magnet ball in a continuous tube) has ever been built before.

[gyulasun]

Hi powercat,

I have not seen your setup yet either anywhere else but this is no problem, rigth?

In fact there is a "twisted-out" version of your setup and I mean:

1) the tube does not exist but substituted by stationary coils arranged in a full circle with gaps between them    (you could easily   embed them into a ring-shaped tube or you could use a non-magnetic ring to hold the coils  mechanically as bobbins as you yourself show)
2) the ball magnet does not exist but there are magnets arranged in a toroidal shape and each of these circular magnet sets  rotate outside of and around the stationary circular row of the coils

The inventor (from Germany) shows his setup as a low Lenz generator (not motor) and for the tests he rotates his setup by hand as the "prime mover" and shows loaded run down tests. Here is his youtube videos as he uploaded them in time:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TEemaW9_CE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfgzfl69Q20
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__B9obbzreQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rX5ukoC-WXU

and here in his latest video he shows magnetic induction with "three fields":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vmr5AlwH1GM 

I do not understand German and I am puzzled by his statement that he has a low Lenz generator setup,  of course I know he comes to this conclusion because of his comparative run down tests with load versus the no load rotational time.  BUT what I conventionally tend to think is that his magnets are far away from the coils so action-reaction is limited and if he connected all the output coils in series, so his generator inner resistance is relatively high (Lenz reacts in a lessen degree when current is smaller).
Of course I do not wish to discourage you or anyone else with this "rambling", just my own observations.

rgds, Gyula

[powercat]

Hi
the German videos were very interesting but what a build way beyond my capabilities,
if I do built this motor/generator I will try and buy everything off the shelf.

Another idea today is to fix the whole device on a bicycle wheel and then spin the wheel
using another motor, so the magnet ball in tube will only be a generator.

[Cherryman]

Sorry for the poor sketch but I hope it helps understand the idea
The black is the tube.
The green is the toroid coils
The red is the magnet ball

I have never seen a motor/generator like this ever before.

Hi Powercat, I played with the idear a few years back:


http://www.overunity.com/9048/one-ring-to-control-them-all/